Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread David L. Craig
On 23Oct11:0924-0400, Rick Troth wrote: > The web burst onto the scene. Thankfully HTTP and HTML have tagging > capabilities, so for most consumers ... well ... they have no idea the work > the techies have gone thru. And to think IBM's C-suite thought it was a good idea in the early '80s to get

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread Grant Taylor
On 10/11/23 6:39 AM, jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar wrote: Thanks guys for all you instructive answers! :-) As it usually happens when you try to understand something, new questions often arise and you realize that things are fairly more complicated than you initially beleived. I think that's a n

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread Rick Troth
On 10/10/23 22:22, Grant Taylor wrote: On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote: The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I was wondering the same thing. I'm watching the thread to learn more. *blush* Gotta be prepared to say "I was wrong".

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-11 Thread jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Thanks guys for all you instructive answers! As it usually happens when you try to understand something, new questions often arise and you realize that things are fairly more complicated than you initially beleived. Juan --

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Brennan
type. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Grant Taylor <023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of Grant Taylor <023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 10:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote: > The copy-n-paste point makes me

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Grant Taylor
On 10/10/23 3:15 PM, Rick Troth wrote: The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I was wondering the same thing. I'm watching the thread to learn more. I don't know graphical environments well enough to analyze it. But it would mean that, yes, t

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Tom Brennan
Rich, this post is much better :) Your first post about an EBCDIC font is probably something no Windows terminal emulator does. Otherwise the user would be really limited in font selection. In fact, I've never even seen an EBCDIC font although I guess they must exist. I'd go out on a limb a

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Roger Bolan
adness goes away. Only 0-127 are > ASCII, and even there it is common to repurpose 0-31. > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf > of Rick Troth > Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:15 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > S

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
Troth Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 4:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII Not late at all. The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I don't know graphical environments well enough to analyze it. But it would

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Rick Troth
Not late at all. The copy-n-paste point makes me wonder if the fonts are actually mapped to ASCII values. I don't know graphical environments well enough to analyze it. But it would mean that, yes, there *is* A/E translation happening even in the graphical 3270 emulators. (In hopes of not stee

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Steve Thompson
___ From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List on behalf of jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar <01f9499d67db-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII Hi! I want to understand

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
W dniu 10.10.2023 o 18:18, jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar pisze: Hi! I want to understand how TN3270 emulation works regarding convertion of characters (between EBCDIC and ASCII, and viceversa). This is how I think it works (more or less), but I am not sure at all. So please let me know about any mist

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Seymour J Metz
.edu> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 12:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII Hi! I want to understand how TN3270 emulation works regarding convertion of characters (between EBCDIC and ASCII, and viceversa). This is how I think it works (more or less), but I am

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Steve Thompson
I am replying a bit late to this. However, when you do a copy/paste from the TN3270 screen to Notepad (as an example), it then becomes "ASCII". Same for copy to Word. Now, if you copy from your workstation and paste into the TN3270 emulator, it gets converted/translated to "EBCDIC" and watch

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Cameron Conacher
Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 17: 06: 51 +, Cameron Conacher wrote: >Yes DBCS is available. >The block of DBCS data starts with a hex ‘0E’ and terminates with a hex ‘0F. > Wh

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 17:06:51 +, Cameron Conacher wrote: >Yes DBCS is available. >The block of DBCS data starts with a hex ‘0E’ and terminates with a hex ‘0F. > Which CCSID(s)? Which of these would be best for viewing a UTF-8 file? (I'd hope for 1208.) -- Thanks, gil --

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Cameron Conacher
Yes DBCS is available. The block of DBCS data starts with a hex ‘0E’ and terminates with a hex ‘0F. Thanks …….Cameron From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII On

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 12:38:13 -0400, Rick Troth wrote: > >TN3270 is an EBCDIC protocol. >When a TN3270 client program connects to a z/OS or z/VM or z/VSE or >z/TPF host (typically on TCP port 23) and negotiates for TN3270, >everything is EBCDIC after that. (Well ... everything except the >signalling

Re: TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread Rick Troth
Hi Juan -- TN3270 is an EBCDIC protocol. When a TN3270 client program connects to a z/OS or z/VM or z/VSE or z/TPF host (typically on TCP port 23) and negotiates for TN3270, everything is EBCDIC after that. (Well ... everything except the signalling, of course. But the textual content is all E

TN3270, EBCDIC and ASCII

2023-10-10 Thread jgmauta...@yahoo.com.ar
Hi! I want to understand how TN3270 emulation works regarding convertion of characters (between EBCDIC and ASCII, and viceversa). This is how I think it works (more or less), but I am not sure at all. So please let me know about any mistakes. Let suppose that you use a TN3270 emulator program to