Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-08 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 7280b0f7-a217-4d37-aea2-f1e46be53...@optonline.net, on 01/07/2014 at 11:48 AM, Micheal Butz michealb...@optonline.net said: I need to have a TGET To have a full screen TPUT to display What happens if you don't have a TGET before the TPUT FULLSCR? Did you issue a STFDMODE? Did you use

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-07 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 20140106191027.17d7b33...@panix2.panix.com, on 01/06/2014 at 02:10 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said: Sure it does. No; you're giving the right answer to the wrong question. From the help file: That confirms what Hank and I wrote. Specifically, However, when you invoke SDSF as a TSO

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-07 Thread Micheal Butz
I need to have a TGET To have a full screen TPUT to display Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 20140106191027.17d7b33...@panix2.panix.com, on 01/06/2014 at 02:10 PM, Don Poitras poit...@pobox.com said:

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In !!AAAYAJXIDufoOyhGhgKtFLrs5tbCgAAAEHgHztPQ3sNJi6d9su/5f2IBAA==@optonline.net, on 01/05/2014 at 06:41 PM, MichealButz michealb...@optonline.net said: Would anyone know to display TSO FULL SCREEN UNDER ISPF What are you asking? How to wirite an ISPF dialog? How to

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 1934743922114507.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 01/05/2014 at 08:33 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: Bad design; wrong layering, but typical of IBM. Properly, the TSO command, full screen or line mode, should run in its split, perceiving a screen geometry matching

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 52ca46c4.7050...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 01/05/2014 at 10:01 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: There is nothing special going on. Any program invoked as an ISPF application can use standard ISPF DISPLAY services The issue is a TSO fullscreen application, e.g.,SDSF, not some

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In 4676648172689488.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu, on 01/05/2014 at 08:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com said: *And* I believe SDSF stays in its split. No; SDSF only honors ISPF splits if you run it as an ISPF application. What Hank is talking about is running SDSF as a

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Don Poitras
In article 20140106182938.c8ed2f58...@smtp.patriot.net you wrote: In 52ca46c4.7050...@phoenixsoftware.com, on 01/05/2014 at 10:01 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com said: There is nothing special going on. Any program invoked as an ISPF application can use standard ISPF DISPLAY

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Walt Farrell
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 22:01:40 -0800, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: On 1/5/2014 6:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: *And* I believe SDSF stays in its split. *And* I believe it allows SWAP to another split. But that's not fair; SDSF is somehow ISPF-savvy, not just a plain ol' TSO

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-06 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/6/2014 12:25 PM, Walt Farrell wrote: While that's true for unauthorized programs, SDSF needs to runs authorized, and there's actually a fair amount of special stuff going on under the covers. Your more typical authorized program cannot interact with the user via ISPF services as SDSF

TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread MichealButz
Hi, Would anyone know to display TSO FULL SCREEN UNDER ISPF -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread John McKown
What do you mean by that? If you have a TSO command which can do full screen 3270 processing, without using ISPF, it should run just fine under ISPF. Of course, it cannot swap screens with an ISPF screen, unless you write something into the command yourself to invoke an ISPF DISPLAY type service.

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Micheal Butz
I meant from isp@prime panel TSO command Where command issues a TPUT data,datalen,FULLSCR Sent from my iPhone On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:39 PM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by that? If you have a TSO command which can do full screen 3270 processing,

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Hank Oerlemans
As John said, there is no special requirement. Try TSO SDSF, if you have that installed, from any ISPF command line. You'll find it drives the TSO fullscreen dialog rather than the ISPF version. Hank -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 5 Jan 2014 19:39:01 -0600, John McKown wrote: What do you mean by that? If you have a TSO command which can do full screen 3270 processing, without using ISPF, it should run just fine under ISPF. Of course, it cannot swap screens with an ISPF screen, ... Bad design; wrong layering, but

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:27:04 +1100, Hank Oerlemans wrote: As John said, there is no special requirement. Try TSO SDSF, if you have that installed, from any ISPF command line. You'll find it drives the TSO fullscreen dialog rather than the ISPF version. *And* I believe SDSF stays in its split.

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Hank Oerlemans
Then you haven't got the TSO version active. There are no nice ISPF-savvy commands available with TSO SDSF which invokes program ISFINIT as distinct from typing SDSF on the command line which *might* find a command table entry and invoke program ISFISP. If you *are* getting an ISPF friendly

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Jon Perryman
What are you talking about? SDSF has 2 different presentation modes. Either TSO or ISPF. Type TSO SDSF from the ISPF command line and  it won't have any ISPF capabilities such as split screen. Jon Perryman From: Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com On Mon,

Re: TSO FULL SCREEN MODE UNDER ISPF

2014-01-05 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 1/5/2014 6:39 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: *And* I believe SDSF stays in its split. *And* I believe it allows SWAP to another split. But that's not fair; SDSF is somehow ISPF-savvy, not just a plain ol' TSO fullscreen application. SDSF recognizes and satisfies a special requirement in order to