UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Donald Likens
WebSphere Application Server supplies some of its information in its SMF records in Unicode format. Is there a facility available to convert Unicode to EBCDIC? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Scott Barry
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:54:44 -0500, Donald Likens wrote: >WebSphere Application Server supplies some of its information in its SMF >records in Unicode format. Is there a facility available to convert Unicode to >EBCDIC? Suggest structured Internet search argument --> conver

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/23/2013 9:54 AM, Donald Likens wrote: WebSphere Application Server supplies some of its information in its SMF records in Unicode format. Is there a facility available to convert Unicode to EBCDIC? Which EBCDIC code page would you like? Check out Unicode Services User's Guid

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Barry Merrill
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Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Clark Morris
On 23 Sep 2013 09:23:00 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >If you mean a program, then the UNIX "iconv" command can do that. There is >also the "iconv" set of C language subroutines if you want to write your >own. >http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/edclb1c0/3.440

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John McKown
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: > On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: > >> If you mean a program, then the UNIX "iconv" command can do that. There is >> also the "iconv" set of C language subroutines if you want to write your >> own. >> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.**co

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: If you mean a program, then the UNIX "iconv" command can do that. There is also the "iconv" set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/edclb1c0/3.440 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.c

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Steve Comstock
On 9/23/2013 12:02 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:04 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: If you mean a program, then the UNIX "iconv" command can do that. There is also the "iconv" set of C language subroutines if you want to write your o

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:44:04 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: >On 9/23/2013 10:22 AM, John McKown wrote: >> If you mean a program, then the UNIX "iconv" command can do that. There is >> also the "iconv" set of C language subroutines if you want to write your >> own. >> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/c

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Jon Perryman
For official character conversion in assembler, see the IBM manual "z/OS Unicode Services User's Guide and Reference"  which documents use of their unicode services. Jon Perryman.   > > From: Steve Comstock > > >Actually, COBOL has the builtin function DISPLAY-OF

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John McKown
If you mean a program, then the UNIX "iconv" command can do that. There is also the "iconv" set of C language subroutines if you want to write your own. http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/edclb1c0/3.440 http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/cbcpg1c0/8.6.

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Charles Mills
I. There is actually a "Unicode EBCDIC" (UTF-EBCDIC) but it's pretty obscure. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Donald Likens Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 8:55 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >"Unicode" is not a character set (or "format") -- it's a whole family of >character sets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode. If it's UTF-8 then you >can do a 98% job if you just treat it as ASCII. If it's UTF-16 or UCS-2 you >can do

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Charles Mills
t: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:18 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: > >"Unicode" is not a character set (or "format") -- it's a whole family of >character sets. http://en.wikipedia

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Tony Harminc
On 23 September 2013 20:18, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:56:46 -0700, Charles Mills wrote: >>There is actually a "Unicode EBCDIC" (UTF-EBCDIC) but it's pretty obscure. >> > Not as obscure as it deserves to be. Never miss a chance on this one, do you Gil... As you know, I think

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John Gilmore
Paul Gilmartin's opinions about EBCDIC are not always or necessarily wrong in detail, but they are wholly predictable. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread John Gilmore
On 9/23/13, John Gilmore wrote: > Paul Gilmartin's opinions about EBCDIC are not always or necessarily > wrong in detail, but they are wholly predictable. > > John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA > -- John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA --

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:23:04 -0400, Tony Harminc wrote: > >> Not as obscure as it deserves to be. > >Never miss a chance on this one, do you Gil... As you know, I think >UTF-EBCDIC was a great idea, and can't understand how it failed to >catch on. Maybe there's just not much call for invoking legac

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread David Crayford
On 24/09/2013 10:43 AM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: It doesn't say (but perhaps TR # 16 does) which EBCDIC code page (or for that matter, which flavor of ASCII -- ISO8859-??) is used. This could be chaotic. And the dreadful LF<->NEL pitfall lurks. ASCII suffers similar problems; else why would we have

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-23 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:18:30 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >The C++ committee wanted to deprecate trigraphs in the last standard >http://tinyurl.com/n3nas3u. EBCDIC was the only tangible reason >for keeping them alive. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had >a C/C++ analysis tool choke b

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-24 Thread Charles Mills
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:57 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC z/OS Unicode Services is an AWESOME facility but there is a little bit of a learning curve (or "coding curve&

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-25 Thread John McKown
Much like mine about MS-Windows. On Sep 23, 2013 9:02 PM, "John Gilmore" wrote: > Paul Gilmartin's opinions about EBCDIC are not always or necessarily > wrong in detail, but they are wholly predictable. > > John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA > >

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <006101ceb8b8$8fd70610$af851230$@mcn.org>, on 09/23/2013 at 04:56 PM, Charles Mills said: >"Unicode" is not a character set (or "format") -- it's a whole family >of character sets. Not really; it's a 32-bit character set with a 16-bit subset (UCS-2) for the BMP. UTF-8 and UTF-16 are not c

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-09-28 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <9791327634617405.wa.paulgboulderaim@listserv.ua.edu>, on 09/23/2013 at 09:43 PM, Paul Gilmartin said: >o (not mentioned) A simple byte-by-byte lexical sort doesn't > sort into UNICODE code point order (but I'm guessing). This > may not be very important. I suspect that where there

Re: UNICODE to EBCDIC

2013-10-06 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <006101ceb8b8$8fd70610$af851230$@mcn.org>, on 09/23/2013 at 04:56 PM, Charles Mills said: >"Unicode" is not a character set Sure it is. >If it's UTF- UTF-8 is a transform, not a character set, even though you can specify it in charset for MIME. >If it's UTF-16 or UCS-2 you can do a 98%

Trigraphs (was: UNICODE to EBCDIC)

2013-09-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:18:30 +0800, David Crayford wrote: > >The C++ committee wanted to deprecate trigraphs in the last standard > http://tinyurl.com/n3nas3u. EBCDIC was the only tangible reason >for keeping them alive. I've lost count of the amount of times I've had >a C/C++ analysis tool choke b