Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-18 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In bfe615a1bbf8ca40b016b28e1babc62410d70b9...@iowadsmex104.iowa.gov.state.ia.us, on 02/15/2013 at 09:18 AM, Rozeboom, Kay [DAS] kay.rozeb...@iowa.gov said: We have some started tasks that execute a IKJEFT1B step at the end. These work fine during regular shutdowns of the started tasks. But

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-18 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
It turns out that IKJEFT1B (at our shop, at least) needs something called RMOSTC which is used by CA-Deliver. Changing the shutdown syntax from P RMOSTC to F RMOSTC,OFF resolved the problem. (Although I can't say I understand why.) Thanks to everyone who replied. Kay Rozeboom Information

What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
We have some started tasks that execute a IKJEFT1B step at the end. These work fine during regular shutdowns of the started tasks. But when testing a new automated total shutdown procedure (meant to run prior to an IPL), the IKJEFT1B step hangs up. We think it must be waiting for something

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 09:18:11 -0600, Rozeboom, Kay [DAS] wrote: ...when testing a new automated total shutdown procedure (meant to run prior to an IPL), the IKJEFT1B step hangs up. We think it must be waiting for something that has already been shut down, but can't figure out what. Are you

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
It does hang before writing to SYSOUT, but JES is still up at that point. Kay Rozeboom Information Technology Enterprise Iowa Department of Administrative Services Telephone: 515.281.6139   Fax: 515.281.6137 Email:  kay.rozeb...@iowa.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread David Andrews
On Fri, 2013-02-15 at 09:27 -0600, Tom Marchant wrote: Are you trying to write to SYSOUT after JES is shut down? Only possible if they'd done $PJES2,ABEND - JES2 won't shut otherwise with active non-mstr STCs. I think that a write to SYSOUT is still possible with JES down, so long as you don't

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
I would be surprised if IKJEFT1B has any requirements, but the TSO commands that you enter may. If you look at the TSO commands that you are trying to issue, that might give a clue. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Rozeboom, Kay [DAS]
Thanks, but I tried substituting different commands and got the same result. Kay Rozeboom Information Technology Enterprise Iowa Department of Administrative Services Telephone: 515.281.6139   Fax: 515.281.6137 Email:  kay.rozeb...@iowa.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Lizette Koehler
What is the shutdown process? Is TSO down, is JES2 down, where does your process get shutdown with regards to the overall shutdown? Are these the last things to be shutdown? Provide some additional details on the IKJEFT1B and how it relates to the shutdown process Lizette -Original

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Tom Marchant
I tried substituting different commands and got the same result. What happens if you just issue the TIME command? What if there is no command issued? Are there any messages in SYSLOG? -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Skip Robinson
After all our guesswork, I think it's time to take a console dump of the hung task. At worst take a standalone dump, which shouldn't be very big by that time. If you can't figure it out yourself (no shame there), then open an SR and send the dump to IBM. This situation should be APARable... .

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Don Williams
I expect that your new automated shutdown procedure has issued a $P command. JES2 could is still be up, but JES2 processes required for your IKJEFT1B script have been drained. Don -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of

Re: What needs to be up for IKJEFT1B to execute?

2013-02-15 Thread Don Williams
P.S. When that happened to me, I manually issued a $S and that freed things up. I expect that your new automated shutdown procedure has issued a $P command. JES2 could is still be up, but JES2 processes required for your IKJEFT1B script have been drained. Don -Original Message- From: