Re: z/PDT

2022-03-29 Thread Mike Schwab
Site written software would the company written application unique to their site and data, vs something bought from an outside company. On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 3:27 PM kekronbekron <02dee3fcae33-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > Hey, what do you mean by site written software? > > Would

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-29 Thread kekronbekron
Hey, what do you mean by site written software? Would this apply even if I get zPDT LE with my personal email? Is it so because they'll verify that I have the pre-req (of relevant MF experience)? - KB --- Original Message --- On Tuesday, March 29th, 2022 at 9:44 AM, Mike Schwab wrote

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-28 Thread Mike Schwab
If you are doing any coding to learn, that is going to be OK. If you happen to code anything that is useful to run on your employer's mainframe, it probably won't be detected since it would fall under site written software. If you try to sell to any non-employer company they are probably going to

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-28 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/27/22 10:11 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: I think you could probably learn "how" to make your product on the LE edition and if things start working out for you and you think you might have a viable product, you could then switch to the personal edition. That seems like you could potentially

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-27 Thread Brian Westerman
I think you could probably learn "how" to make your product on the LE edition and if things start working out for you and you think you might have a viable product, you could then switch to the personal edition. I don't think you are locked into anything by starting with the LE edition. Many p

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-27 Thread Matt Hogstrom
t; Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was >>>> wrong. >>> Joseph's question/comment was: >>> >>> >>> Why do I have to pay so much money >>> When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars >>>

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-27 Thread Charles Mills
ent. That might be a good starting point. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Farley, Peter x23353 Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2022 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT IMHO, a justifiable fear of size

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-27 Thread Phil Smith III
Peter Farley wrote, in part: >IMHO, a justifiable fear of size and ferocity of the legal army at IBM should provide the needed incentive to DTRT for most above-board Learners Edition users As an early manager once told me, "IBM's lawyers can beat up our lawyers", so yeah. An

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-27 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
>> commented on, is not the "nobody actually has it yet" Learner's >>>> Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was >>>> wrong. >>> Joseph's question/comment was: >>> >>> >>> Why do I have to pay s

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-27 Thread Seymour J Metz
UA.EDU] on behalf of Radoslaw Skorupka [r.skoru...@hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2022 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT Well, how can it be enforced? Let's assume someone is working on some software, called XYZ. He's working on zPDT emulated machine. Fin

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-26 Thread Brian Westerman
t I >>>> commented on, is not the "nobody actually has it yet" Learner's >>>> Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was >>>> wrong. >>> Joseph's question/comment was: >>> >>> >>> Why do I hav

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-26 Thread Radoslaw Skorupka
ion, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was wrong. Joseph's question/comment was: Why do I have to pay so much money When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and can sell software you develo

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Joseph Reichman
ve to pay so much money >>>>> When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars >>>>> >>>>> And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition >>>>> and can sell software you develop >>> I doubt th

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
e long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was > > wrong. > > Joseph's question/comment was: > > > Why do I have to pay so much money > When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars > > And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edi

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Matt Hogstrom
t" Learner's >> Edition, but the long standing Personal Edition. Obviously I was >> wrong. > > Joseph's question/comment was: > > > Why do I have to pay so much money > When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars > > And they responded

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
: Why do I have to pay so much money When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and can sell software you develop If so what makes me different than an ISV So, the "why" of the difference in cost betwee

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 11:05, Ed Jaffe wrote: > > On 3/25/2022 7:52 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: [...] > > I doubt that the personal edition licence prohibits you from selling > > software that you develop. But even if I am wrong on that... > > It most certainly does!!! Commercial use of any kind is pr

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Joseph Reichman
wrote: >>> >>> At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep >>> Why do I have to pay so much money >>> When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars >>> >>> And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
re, reputation merely what others think you are.” - - - John Wooden -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 09:54 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT Actually, the z/PDTLE license *does* prohibit using

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Ed Jaffe
On 3/25/2022 7:52 AM, Tony Harminc wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:33, Joseph Reichman wrote: At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep Why do I have to pay so much money When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Jay Maynard
o much money > > When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars > > > > And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition > and can sell software you develop > > I doubt that the personal edition licence prohibits you from selling > softwa

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:33, Joseph Reichman wrote: > At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep > Why do I have to pay so much money > When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars > > And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and > can

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Joseph Reichman
Since you responded to my post maybe you Can answer a question At the time of my re-newel I asked my rep Why do I have to pay so much money When the learners edition is only a few hundred dollars And they responded well that’s because you have z/PDT personal edition and can sell software

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-25 Thread Sebastian Welton
Dallas - ISV which means zPDT and tends to get the ADCD a bit quicker Passport Advantage - means ZD&T systems and this ADCD is packaged slightly differently. In fact an ISV wouldn't be able to use it and vice-versa Sebastian >Just opened a ticket was told will get a response by tommorow > >Tha

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 9:21 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: z/PDT > > Just logged in to passport advantage went to down load software Still 2.4 > > John if I understand you it was explained to me that there are 2 Zpdt > perso

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread John Abell
List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 9:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT Just logged in to passport advantage went to down load software Still 2.4 John if I understand you it was explained to me that there are 2

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
tion, > interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 9:01 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.ED

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread John Abell
[mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Reichman Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 9:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT John Think we have different licenses I typically download the images from the passport advantage site > On Mar 24, 2022, at 8:47 AM, John Ab

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
such corruption, > interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Joseph Reichman > Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 8:20 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread John Abell
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT On another note still waiting for 2.5 anybody hear anything > On Mar 23, 2022, at 1:33 AM, Jay Maynard wrote: > > I have completed all of the paperwork and paid my money. The last I > heard, the log4j business was indeed soaking up all of the bandwidth

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-24 Thread Joseph Reichman
27;m hoping they extend it. > >> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 11:41 PM Grant Taylor < >> 023065957af1-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: >> >>> On 3/22/22 10:37 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: >>> Has anyone heard any news about the lower cost z/PDT late

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-23 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT I have completed all of the paperwork and paid my money. The last I heard, the log4j business was indeed soaking up all of the bandwidth they had to devote to such things, but they expected to have something to send out by mid-February, and everything

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-23 Thread Jay Maynard
I'm told that the z/PDT Learner's Edition is not just the 2.5 AD/CD, but has other goodies on it as well. It also isn't quite the same as the commercial version, thoughI don't know what the differences are - but if you look at the z/PDT web page, you'll see that the late

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-23 Thread ITschak Mugzach
d receive > emails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, > interception, tampering, amendment or viruses or any consequence thereof. > > > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On > Behalf Of Jay Ma

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-23 Thread John Abell
any consequence thereof. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jay Maynard Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 1:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: z/PDT I have completed all of the paperwork and paid my money

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-22 Thread Jay Maynard
M, Brian Westerman wrote: > > Has anyone heard any news about the lower cost z/PDT lately? I was > > on the list, but everything seems to have been dropped. > > I heard from someone that they had completed the paperwork and were > waiting on the approval as of early this y

Re: z/PDT

2022-03-22 Thread Grant Taylor
On 3/22/22 10:37 PM, Brian Westerman wrote: Has anyone heard any news about the lower cost z/PDT lately? I was on the list, but everything seems to have been dropped. I heard from someone that they had completed the paperwork and were waiting on the approval as of early this year. From what

z/PDT

2022-03-22 Thread Brian Westerman
Has anyone heard any news about the lower cost z/PDT lately? I was on the list, but everything seems to have been dropped. Brian -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-25 Thread Charles Mills
Thanks all for your help. Happy ending: sometime between when last we checked and now, the z/PDT in question has been upgraded to a "BC12." Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Jim Mulder Sent: Friday, F

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-24 Thread Jim Mulder
>And there are other hardware features that are NOT implemented, which I >found out the hard way. No AUTOIPL, for instance. z/OS AUTOIPL uses a Diagnose (which is implemented by LPAR and z/VM) to initiate an IPL. I think it is not currently implemented by zPDT. However, if you run z/OS as a

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Barbara Nitz
> However, keep in mind that this is a statement about the CPU >architecture, and not >the I/O architecture. For example, zPDT does not support MIDAWs, which >were >introduced on the z9 machines. And there are other hardware features that are NOT implemented, which I found out the hard way

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Steve M Bohn
No charge for the upgrade. They get it from ResourceLink, have them look under the Tools option and 1090 Support. From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/23/2017 01:23 PM Subject:Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? Sent by

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? Charles, this link might help: https://www-356.ibm.com/partnerworld/wps/servlet/ContentHandler/pw_com_zpdt_ whatsnew It has a history of releases back to 2010. From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSER

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Steve M Bohn
architecture level of a z/PDT? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List @Jim, my concern at this moment is with C++ compile ARCH level, so I/O macht nichts. @Steve, the Redbook says E39 is z800/900, and I am confident of my mapping of z900 to ARCH(5) -- assuming it is running in Z mode, not

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve M Bohn Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? Correct, enter it in a Linux Terminal session. And I don't

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Gilson, Lynn
vels but note Mr. Bohns observation previously in this thread. Hope this helps! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve M Bohn Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 9:32 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How determine

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Steve M Bohn
level of a z/PDT? Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List Thanks. And I gather that's a Linux command, not a "z/OS" command. And working from the Redbook, the output below would indicate an E39, an emulated z800/900, ARCH(5) or ZS, right? Charles -Original Message

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Jim Mulder
/Cincinnati/IBM@IBMUS wrote on 02/23/2017 10:35:15 AM: > From: Steve M Bohn/Cincinnati/IBM@IBMUS > To: ibm-main@listserv.ua.edu > Date: 02/23/2017 12:19 PM > Subject: Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? > > Charles, the architecture level is fixed at the zP

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
SERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve M Bohn Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 8:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? Have them send you the output of the z1090ver command: $ z1090ver z1090, version z1090_v1r0_E39, build date - 10/17/08 SUSE

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Steve M Bohn
Have them send you the output of the z1090ver command: $ z1090ver z1090, version z1090_v1r0_E39, build date - 10/17/08 SUSE 32 bit From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/23/2017 11:28 AM Subject:Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
Bohn Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2017 7:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? Charles, the architecture level is fixed at the zPDT's release level. For example: zPDT V1R6 runs the z13 architecture level. From: Charle

Re: How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Steve M Bohn
Charles, the architecture level is fixed at the zPDT's release level. For example: zPDT V1R6 runs the z13 architecture level. From: Charles Mills To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Date: 02/23/2017 09:44 AM Subject:How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT? Se

How determine effective architecture level of a z/PDT?

2017-02-23 Thread Charles Mills
Do I understand correctly? All z/PDT's return z1090 or z1091 for D M=CPU? How can one determine the effective architecture level? Is it pretending to be a z9 or a BC12? (On a customer machine. I know that possible general answers are "write a program to query the facility bits" or "use a CBT tool