Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-16 Thread Jon Perryman
You no longer need a separate MCAT for each system. You need to ensure that system specific datasets are unique (e.g. using &SYSNAME in the DSN for logrec). As for indirect volume reference for shared files, that too is allowed and very useful (E.g. SYS1.LINKLIB) In the old days, I had to rename

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-16 Thread Donald Likens
I agree that one would not use indirect volume reference for any file that is shared across LPARs. This would only be for files that are unique for each LPAR. Jon… I thought being SYS1 removed the catalog ownership restriction. Each LPAR has its own master catalog. -

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Rob Schramm
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r12/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r12.idac100%2Fdefzfs.htm http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA34695 Specific references in Define Cluster Required and Optional parameters in z/OS DFSMS Access Method Services for Catalogs > DEFINE CLUSTER

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Jon Perryman
It's not a requirement that it be a SYS1 dataset. There are advantages to it being SYS1 such as you know immediately it is in the mastercat and is covered by SYS1 RACF rules.  Jon Perryman - Original Message - > From: Donald Likens > > So it must be a SYS1 dataset... Thanks ---

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Donald Likens
So it must be a SYS1 dataset... Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 15 Jan 2014 04:18:42 -0600, Donald Likens wrote: >Note: The zFS would have been created with a different master catalog. I was >assuming that SYS1 statement in the entry in the manual meant that it was >cataloged in the master catalog. Has anyone put the OMVS root ion the SYSRES? >IF

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Jousma, David
I have not experimented with this much, since we use SYSRES volser as part of the filesystem datasetname. But, I'm still trying to fathom if ZFS indirect volser support would even work in a multisystem sysplex with Sysplex filesharing? If I have LPAR A on SYSRESA, and LPAR B runni

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Donald Likens
Note: The zFS would have been created with a different master catalog. I was assuming that SYS1 statement in the entry in the manual meant that it was cataloged in the master catalog. Has anyone put the OMVS root ion the SYSRES? IF so, how did you do it?

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-15 Thread Donald Likens
Right now the root is read write but someday I plan to make it read-only. I guess I didn't ask the right question... Let me try again. If I put a zFS on the SYSRES and recatalog it to use a indirect volume reference, what needs to be done to IPL from a different SYSRES? ---

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Pearce, Colin E
EDU Subject: Re: zFS Indirect volser support Wouldn't the DELETE NOSCRATCH mark the VVCR as not in a catalog and available for RECATALOG? Otherwise we couldn't RECATALOG to another UCAT or must it always be recataloged to the original catalog? Jon Perryman. - Original Message

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Jon Perryman
Wouldn't the DELETE NOSCRATCH mark the VVCR as not in a catalog and available for RECATALOG? Otherwise we couldn't RECATALOG to another UCAT or must it always be recataloged to the original catalog? Jon Perryman. - Original Message - > From: "Pearce, Colin E" > >T he VVDS keeps the n

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Pearce, Colin E
The VVDS keeps the name of each BCS, that has datasets cataloged on the volume, in its VSAM Volume Control Record - VVCR. So the DEFINE RECATALOG, will use the BCS information in the VVDS VVCR, plus the information in the associated VVR, in order to recatalog the dataset to the correct User Cat

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Jon Perryman
It just dawned on me what you were asking. The VVDS definition should occur automatically unless you are using some really old MVS version. When you do the DELETE NOSCRATCH, the data still resides on disk. I suspect that RECATALOG will use the VVDS data to help recatalog the dataset. Jon Perrym

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Jon Perryman
I don't understand the quest "How does this really help". I assume you just want to catalog the zFS datasets with symbolic volume. I'm guessing you did not define ZFS.ROOT because you say there isn't a VVDS. I thought that defining a VSAM dataset on a volume would cause the VVDS to be created.

Re: zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is the roof RO or is it RW? Lizette -Original Message- >From: Donald Likens >Sent: Jan 14, 2014 3:11 PM >To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU >Subject: zFS Indirect volser support > >OK I already figured out that the following command allows a shop to use >indirect volser

zFS Indirect volser support

2014-01-14 Thread Donald Likens
OK I already figured out that the following command allows a shop to use indirect volser support for zFS files. DEFINE CLUSTER (NAME(ZFS.ROOT) LINEAR VOLUMES(&SYSR1) RECATALOG) I also figured out that (at least on z/OS R12) that you cannot use a 6 character symbolic and you cannot use **.