Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Les Koehler
I didn't mean to imply 'best practices', just another alternative to consider. Les Chip Davis wrote: Perhaps. But this thread evolved into a best practices discussion. That is a wide gamut which conceivably extends down to Rexx coding suggestions. For example, my PROFILE XEDIT checked the

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I didn't mean to imply 'best practices', just another alternative to consider. And I hope my tongue-in-cheek quip wasn't taken as being critical! It sure wasn't intended as such.

Re: 3584 support in vm tape manager software

2010-01-29 Thread Peter . Webb
We are running a 3584 with VM:Tape. Works great! Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Andrews Sent: January 28, 2010 17:17 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: 3584 support in vm tape manager software Is

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Altmark
This discussion has taken the inevitable religious turn and, as expected with this crowd, each of us has the best view of the Light. As it happens, I know that I alone posess the One True Profile and I am content. At the End of Days, we will be Judged, not by our actions or who we are, but by

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread C. Lawrence Perkins
Typing is good for my arthritis; it saves me a fortune at the pharmacy. On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:55:57 -0500, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Using WORDPOS() would be a *lot* more efficient and easier to type! Les

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Chuckie wrote: At the End of Days, we will be Judged, not by our actions or who we are, but by the sophistication of our respective PROFILEs. I am ready. Are you? I sure am -- I bet my PROFILE XEDIT does more than yours, neener neener! Seriously, it does do some things that reflect 30 years

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Chip Davis
Okay, I concede. Even though he's a relative newcomer to VM, Phil's is longer then mine... On 1/29/10 16:18 Phil Smith III said: Chuckie wrote: At the End of Days, we will be Judged, not by our actions or who we are, but by the sophistication of our respective PROFILEs. I am ready. Are

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
That is why I suggested later that if such a change were to be made, it should be at a release boundary and the Conversion Guide should scream about it. Even then, there would be those who missed noticing it until it bit the users. That said, the ability to choose whether or not to change it

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Nick Laflamme
On Jan 29, 2010, at 9:32 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: This discussion has taken the inevitable religious turn and, as expected with this crowd, each of us has the best view of the Light. As it happens, I know that I alone posess the One True Profile and I am content. At the End of Days, we

Re: Different PROFILE TCPIP for DR

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 01/28/2010 at 06:59 EST, O'Brien, Dennis L dennis.l.o'br...@bankofamerica.com wrote: I'm setting up a DR process for a new system. I need to use a different PROFILE TCPIP when the system is up in the DR site. I know that the easy and wrong way is to update TCPIP's PROFILE

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 01/29/2010 at 12:47 EST, Nick Laflamme dplafla...@gmail.com wrote: Ardent goes scampering off to find the TCP/IP samples disk, to see if there's a stray PROFILE XEDSAMP on it that he'd want to study very carefully before running No no no. Totally unnecessary. Totally.

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Kris Buelens
And, if a newly typed text is unexpectedly in mixed case, there always is the UPPER command. And as there is no BackToMixed command to restore my carefully type text, Mixed would be a better default nowadays for the XEDIT unexperiended 2010/1/29 Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com That is why I

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Ron Schmiedge
Actually, IBM already did make some significant changes to XEDIT defaults. I still have the MEMO file sitting on our X disk (from the days when DTRIPF did more than a NOPAN), dated Dec 12, 1984, wherein we tell our users that since the new release of VM/SP changed the way XEDIT behaved, we were

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread P S
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Chip Davis c...@aresti.com wrote: Okay, I concede. Even though he's a relative newcomer to VM, Phil's is longer then mine... Hah. I know when I'm being baited...let's see, it was about 1975. So no, I don't go back to VM/370 R1.

Re: 3584 support in vm tape manager software

2010-01-29 Thread Barbara Andrews
Is your 3584 attached to VM FC or Ficon? From the other response I received from this post If the 3584 Tape Library is managed by DFSMS/VM RMS on z/VM, then CA VM:Tape will interfac e with it via DFSMS/VM RMS and the following statement I found in an IBM Tape Manager manual An automated tape

Re: 3584 support in vm tape manager software

2010-01-29 Thread David Boyes
On 1/29/10 1:33 PM, Barbara Andrews bandr...@e1b.org wrote: Does anyone out there know if it is possible to use a tape library that is attached via FC with DFSMS/VM RMS on z/VM? AFAIK, no. SCSI tape support for CMS is one of those unfinished dreams, and DFSMS RMS is a CMS application. It'd be

Re: 3584 support in vm tape manager software

2010-01-29 Thread Peter . Webb
Our 3584 is attached using Ficon, and yes, we use DFSMS/VM RMS to interface between the tape library and VM:Tape. Can't say about FC, I've never worked with it. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Barbara Andrews

Re: 3584 support in vm tape manager software

2010-01-29 Thread Imler, Steven J
The 3584 Tape library will *have to be* ESCON or FICON attached to the mainframe to be usable with DFSMS/VM RMS and/or CA VM:Tape. As was mentioned by others, CMS applications like DFSMS/VM RMS and CA VM:Tape can not use tape drives that are attached to the mainframe via SCSI ... only a Linux

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: And, if a newly typed text is unexpectedly in mixed case, there always is the UPPER command.   And as there is no BackToMixed command to restore my carefully type text, Mixed would be a better default nowadays for the

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 01/29/2010 at 01:10 EST, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: And, if a newly typed text is unexpectedly in mixed case, there always is the UPPER command. And as there is no BackToMixed command to restore my carefully type text, Mixed would be a better default nowadays

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Peter . Webb
And here I thought it was the Knights Who Say Nee, and that you had to bring a shrubbery. -Original Message- FWIW, I have learned that a Supplicant intends to petition Supreme High Council of z/VM Design (known in some circles as The Coven) to change the default CASE setting in XEDIT

Re: 3584 support in vm tape manager software

2010-01-29 Thread Marcy Cortes
If it is attached via FCP, you have to use it on Linux. VM can't do anything with it. (we have one on Linux). Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy,

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Phil Smith III
Long, long ago, at UofW, I wrote an AUTOCASE setting. If AUTOCASE was on, but CASE was U, altering a line would examine the line and see if it was all uppercase. If not, it would leave case alone. If it was all uppercase (or all blank, or all non-alpha, anyway), entered alpha characters were

Integrated 3270 console not working

2010-01-29 Thread Kris Buelens
I'm struggling with the Integrated 3270 console (SYSG for short) on an old z800 (running native). It simply doesn't want to work: I can start it up, but it remains black... When I inherited that system, the HMC was still OS/2, hence no SYSG (at least that's what I think). HW upgrades converted

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Sir Alan writes: FWIW, I have learned that a Supplicant intends to petition Supreme High Council of z/VM Design (known in some circles as The Coven) ... Yes, *it is I* who dare to summon The Coven. I chant appropriately, tug on my forelock, and will even bring some young REXX EXECs for

Re: XEDIT SET CASE default setting - is it the best?

2010-01-29 Thread Schuh, Richard
That is in keeping with the bit of wisdom that has been frequently passed on in this forum and at other places, If it is documented, it will not change unless absolutely necessary. If not documented, it can change at any time; use or rely on it at your own risk. Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: Integrated 3270 console not working

2010-01-29 Thread Brian Nielsen
A thought that may or not matter: Are the SE's running Linux or OS/2? Unlike the HMC, the SE's operating system can't be changed. Perhaps if the SE's are still OS/2 that would explain what you see. Hmmm, I should test this during the next DR test o n our z/890 that has SE's running OS/2.

Re: Integrated 3270 console not working

2010-01-29 Thread Brian Nielsen
Umm, never mind. I just remembered that I have used the integrated 3270 device on that processor. Brian Nielsen On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:03:05 -0600, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.gov wrote: A thought that may or not matter: Are the SE's running Linux or OS/2? Unlike the HMC, the SE's

Re: VM DB2 7.3 question

2010-01-29 Thread Bill Pettit
Thank you Roland. This was the information I have been looking for. Bill Pettit -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Roland P. Chung Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 8:38 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VM DB2

Re: Integrated 3270 console not working

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 01/29/2010 at 03:22 EST, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: I'm struggling with the Integrated 3270 console (SYSG for short) on an old z800 (running native). It simply doesn't want to work: I can start it up, but it remains black... HW support tells me there is

Re: Integrated 3270 console not working

2010-01-29 Thread Kris Buelens
This z800 is running natively. I create the SYSG against the only image object the HMC knows about; the same object that is target of the LOAD and also the SYSA (that seems usable). The SYSG is a Java applet, I guess it uses TCP/IP to connect to the SE, and I wonder where/how it finds the IP