Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-27 Thread Schuh, Richard
Isn't there a contradiction between the first and the last two? It cannot be both free and have no unused cylinders or tracks. The F5 DSCBs determine what is free; the F1, F3 and F6 define what is allocated. If the first or only F5 is all zeros, there is no free extent. Regards, Richard Schuh

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 01/27/2009 at 12:06 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Isn't there a contradiction between the first and the last two? It cannot be both free and have no unused cylinders or tracks. The F5 DSCBs determine what is free; the F1, F3 and F6 define what is allocated. If the

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-27 Thread Lee Stewart
My VS/1 Data Areas book (3 3/4 x 6 3/4 in the little IBM binder) dated 1976 has good detail... ;-) Also probably out of stock... Jim Bohnsack wrote: I used to have a 30 year old ?? OS manual that described the IBM format 1-5 DSCB fields. Don't know where I put it. Maybe it's with a S/360

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-27 Thread Jim Bohnsack
At least, we'll probably never have to wonder if VTAM manuals are out of print. I've gotten the same set of VM/VSE/VTAM manuals since 1995. Every new release of VM comes with the same set of VTAM doc. I wish that Raleigh or whoever owns VTAM now would share some of their documentation money

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-26 Thread Tony Thigpen
On a CPVOL, what is stored in the VTOC address field +x'0B'? The question started on VSE-L due to a what's on this volume question. The ownerid is CP370. The VTOC address field is there but is past the end of the volume. DITTO/ESA for VSE DVT - Display VTOC

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/26/2009 at 07:41 EST, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote: On a CPVOL, what is stored in the VTOC address field +x'0B'? The question started on VSE-L due to a what's on this volume question. The ownerid is CP370. The VTOC address field is there but is past the end of the

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-26 Thread Edward M Martin
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 7:52 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD VOL1 doc On a CPVOL, what is stored in the VTOC address field +x'0B'? The question started on VSE-L due to a what's on this volume question. The ownerid is CP370

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-26 Thread David Logan
: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Edward M Martin Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 08:18 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD VOL1 doc Hello Tony, You know he said he had the vtoc at x'0d3d' for 1 which is 3389. maybe (since he fairly new or been out

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-26 Thread Edward M Martin
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD VOL1 doc I didn't set up the mdisk. I just wanted to make sure there was no valid reason for having a disk pack without an unreadable vtoc. David Logan Manager of Product Development, Pitney Bowes Business Insight http://centrus.com W: (720) 564-3056 C: (303) 818-8222

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-26 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/26/2009 at 07:41 EST, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote: On a CPVOL, what is stored in the VTOC address field +x'0B'? The question started on VSE-L due to a what's on this volume question. The ownerid is CP370. The VTOC address field is there but is past the end of the

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-25 Thread Dave Wade
Dave Wade G4UGM Illegitimi Non Carborundum -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Bohnsack Sent: 25 January 2009 02:26 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD VOL1 doc I used to have a 30 year old ?? OS manual

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Saturday, 01/24/2009 at 08:10 EST, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote: Anybody know where in the VM manuals the layout of the VOL1 label is documented? If you want a modern VOL1, see - DFSMS: Using Datasets for the VOL1 - DFSMSafp Advanced Services for the VTOC and DSCBs If you actually

DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Tony Thigpen
Anybody know where in the VM manuals the layout of the VOL1 label is documented? -- Tony Thigpen

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Stephen Frazier
Tony Thigpen wrote: Anybody know where in the VM manuals the layout of the VOL1 label is documented? I don't know where it is documented now but the DASD and tape VOL1 records are the same format. The fields that are meaningful only tor tape are reserved on DASD and those that are for DASD

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Dave Wade
Illegitimi Non Carborundum -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: 24 January 2009 13:24 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: DASD VOL1 doc Anybody know where in the VM manuals the layout of the VOL1

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote: Anybody know where in the VM manuals the layout of the VOL1 label is documented? C-S 3-8010-003 - not sure your local book store will still have it (dated 1981-12 ;-)

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Fran Hensler
I have the GC33-5375-2 DOS/VS DASD Labels (Release 34) manual. Google only found 1 reference to it which is in the DOS/VS Program Directory for Release 34. Here is a brief description of the VOL1 label: LengthDescriptionContent 3Label Identifier VOL 1

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Rick Bourgeois
www.vsoftsys.com -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Fran Hensler Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:02 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: DASD VOL1 doc I have the GC33-5375-2 DOS/VS DASD Labels (Release 34) manual

Re: DASD VOL1 doc

2009-01-24 Thread Jim Bohnsack
I used to have a 30 year old ?? OS manual that described the IBM format 1-5 DSCB fields. Don't know where I put it. Maybe it's with a S/360 Green Card or an old PofOPs manual. I found this when I did a search on IBM for VTOC. http://www.vm.ibm.com/pubs/cp31064/FMLRC.HTML it says: