Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
Hi I know that there are 32,760 cylinders for a 3390 MOD27. But thus far I have been carving my MOD27s on my DS8100 as max. cylinders of 30050 for my REL z/Linux guests. I was told that for z/Linux (I am running REL4 and 5) that 30050 is the max cylinders it would recognize for a MOD27 is

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest Hi I know that there are 32,760 cylinders for a 3390 MOD27. But thus far I have been carving my MOD27s on my DS8100 as max. cylinders of 30050 for my REL z/Linux guests. I was told that for z/Linux

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Rohling
No - that's not true... Linux doesn't care about 3390 model numbers -- it takes the cylinders it's given and is happy. The reason that I would define Mod27's as 30050 cylinders (actually 30049) Is so that 3 3390-9 size minidisks (10016 cylinders) will fit perfectly. (so: 3x10016 = 30048 + 1

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
] On Behalf Of Scott Rohling Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest No - that's not true... Linux doesn't care about 3390 model numbers -- it takes the cylinders it's given and is happy. The reason

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: No - that's not true... Linux doesn't care about 3390 model numbers -- it takes the cylinders it's given and is happy. The reason that I would define Mod27's as 30050 cylinders (actually 30049) Is so that 3

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:38 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: Right, my guess is that someone said 27 = 3 x 9 = 3 x 10016 = 30048. Then they added one for cyl0, then they got confused about origin 0/origin 1 and wound up at 30050. Who's confused? A 3390-3 at 3339 cylinders, one for CP

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Rob van der Heij rvdh...@gmail.com wrote: Who's confused? A 3390-3 at 3339 cylinders, one for CP and an almost full pack mini disk is 3338 cylinders. So 3390-27 is 30051 cylinders. If you give the guest a pseudo full pack, that's minus one for CP, so 30050

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread RPN01
Except that's not the size of a 3390-27. Ours are all 32760 cylinders in size. -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OE-5-55 200 First Street SW/V\ 507-284-0844 Rochester, MN 55905 /( )\ -^^-^^ In theory,

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Marcy Cortes
. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Rob van der Heij Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 12:49 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Rohling
I think this whole post got confused :-)No one said a 3390-27 is 30051 cylinders.I said that I would consider making one 30049 cylinders since that equates to 3 3390-9 plus cylinder 0 for a volume label. (3x10016 + 1) A supposed 'standard' 3390-27 is 32760 cyls -- but past 3390-9 --

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Greg Dyrda
@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 02/10/2010 03:22 PM Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU No no no. We're all confused! *My* mod 27's are 32,760 cylinders. Course we all know there is no such thing as a mod 27

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest I think this whole post got confused :-)No one said a 3390-27 is 30051 cylinders.I said that I would consider making one 30049 cylinders since that equates to 3 3390-9 plus cylinder 0 for a volume label

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
, February 10, 2010 3:08 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest No no no. We're all confused! *My* mod 27's are 32,760 cylinders. Course we all know there is no such thing as a mod 27 and they are really 3390-9 of a larger size, which can be any size

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Edward M Martin
10, 2010 4:46 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest Yes, I followed up with my IBM DS8100 support folks and it just so happens that with the DS8100 when you ask for a MOD27 it says to calculate as 3x a MOD9(10017 = 30051). But yes any number

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread David Boyes
On 2/10/10 4:36 PM, Greg Dyrda gregory.l.dy...@us.hsbc.com wrote: Yes we are all confused. I think Rob was just trying to point out that 30050 cyls for a 3390-27 makes perfect sense based on the false assumption that all 3390 DASD models are a multiple of a 3390-1. And I am Marie of

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Brian Nielsen
To quote the DS8000 Architecture and Implementation Redbook (SG24-6786, p g 101): If the number of cylinders specified is not an integral multiple of 1113 cylinders, then some space in the last allocated extent is wasted. For example, if you define 1114 or 3340 cylinders, 1112 cylinders are

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Brian Nielsen bniel...@sco.idaho.govwrote: To quote the DS8000 Architecture and Implementation Redbook (SG24-6786, pg 101): If the number of cylinders specified is not an integral multiple of 1113 cylinders, then some space in the last allocated extent is

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Tom Rae
Not quite. Sounds like the DS8000 architecture allocates DASD in 3390 mod1-sized extents, so requesting a 1114 cylinder DASD results in the allocation of two 1113 cylinder extents. The first extent is fully utilized as the first 1113 cylinders of the requested DASD, but only the first cylinder

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Hodge, Robert L
compatibility. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest To quote the DS8000 Architecture

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Scott Rohling
...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:30 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest To quote the DS8000 Architecture and Implementation Redbook (SG24-6786, p g 101): If the number of cylinders

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:37 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: 1112 cylinders are wasted -- out of 1114? That can't be right! Out of 2226 actually. Apparently the allocation granularity of the DS8K is 1113 cylinders. So when you ask for 1114 it will allocate 2 x 1113 and you get only 1114

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest Not quite. Sounds like the DS8000 architecture allocates DASD in 3390 mod1-sized extents, so requesting a 1114 cylinder DASD results in the allocation of two 1113 cylinder extents. The first extent is fully

Re: Number of MOD-27 Cylinders for a z/Linux guest

2010-02-10 Thread zMan
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Tom Rae tom_...@shaw.ca wrote: Not quite. Sounds like the DS8000 architecture allocates DASD in 3390 mod1-sized extents, so requesting a 1114 cylinder DASD results in the allocation of two 1113 cylinder extents. The first extent is fully utilized as the first