VSWITCH Recovery fail with error: detached after CISCO L2 switch is reset

2011-06-13 Thread TaeMin Baek
Hello, We have zLinux(Redhat V5.5) running under z/VM V6.1 on z196. zLinux is coupled to VSWITCH which is defined IP and has two separate OSA adater devices for VSWITCH failover. and two OSA adapter are connected same CISCO L2 switch. We tested VSWITCH failover, and it worked well. But after

Re: VSWITCH Recovery fail with error: detached after CISCO L2 switch is reset

2011-06-13 Thread Malcolm Beattie
TaeMin Baek writes: We have zLinux(Redhat V5.5) running under z/VM V6.1 on z196. zLinux is coupled to VSWITCH which is defined IP and has two separate OSA adater devices for VSWITCH failover. and two OSA adapter are connected same CISCO L2 switch. We tested VSWITCH failover, and it worked

Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Stefan Raabe
Hi, i am not a networking expert, but need to build a layer 2 vlan in z/VM 5.4. Linux is Suse SLES 11 SP1. I was told to use layer 2 for VLAN 485 so i used these commands to create vswitch / vlan DEFINE VSWITCH VMT1VSW0 RDEV E606 E706 CONTROLLER * ETHERNET VLAN 485 native 485 DEFINE LAN

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Joerg Haertel
Stefan, you have connected your NIC device to a z/VM virtual LAN. Virt. LAN has no VLAN support nor can it connect to an OSA Adapter. Only the z/VM VSWITCH has both Layer 2 and VLAN support. So if you want to connect to a externel switch via a OSA adapter using VLAN tagging you must use a VSWITCH

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Stefan Raabe
Hello Joerg, thanks for the answer. Yes, the NIC is connected to the LAN, the LAN is connected via VSWITCH to the OSA. We also changed from layer 2 to layer 3 (IP), but still no connection to the outside world. i am able to ping another linux within the same vlan. this is how it looks

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Karl Kingston
to guest communications. From: Stefan Raabe stefan.ra...@deutsche-boerse.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 05/23/2011 05:38 AM Subject:Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Hi, i am not a networking expert

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Alan Altmark
. Regards, Alan Altmark IBM Lab Services - Sent from my BlackBerry Handheld. - Original Message - From: Stefan Raabe [stefan.ra...@deutsche-boerse.com] Sent: 05/23/2011 11:39 AM ZE2 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch Hi, i am

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Joerg Haertel
Hi Stefan, you wrote the Linux guest nic is defined in the directory NICDEF 9000 TYPE QDIO DEVICES 3 LAN SYSTEM VMT1LN01 MACID E32200 So that NIC is connected to LAN VMT1LN01 not a VSWITCH od did I miss something ? What do you mean with Yes, the NIC is connected to the LAN, the LAN

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Stefan Raabe
Hello, yes we tried that too, and now this is working. so now we use NICDEF - VSWITCH with VLAN 001 What i tried was NICDEF - LAN - VSWITCH with VLNAN 485 which did not work, even when trying with VLAN 001. Is this gerneral not possible? Is the VM LAN for internal commuication only

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Joerg Haertel
to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch Hello, yes we tried that too, and now this is working. so now we use NICDEF - VSWITCH with VLAN 001 What i tried was NICDEF - LAN - VSWITCH

Re: Create z/VM Layer 2 VLAN / VSwitch

2011-05-23 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 05/23/2011 at 08:52 EDT, Stefan Raabe stefan.ra...@deutsche-boerse.com wrote: yes we tried that too, and now this is working. so now we use NICDEF - VSWITCH with VLAN 001 What i tried was NICDEF - LAN - VSWITCH with VLNAN 485 which did not work, even when trying

Re: New VSWITCH definition Best Practice

2011-04-05 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
[mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 5:03 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: New VSWITCH definition Best Practice It's time for me to update my Best Practice for VSWITCH definition With the changes that were made to z/VM 6.1 for zEnterprise

Re: New VSWITCH definition Best Practice

2011-04-05 Thread Jeff Gribbin
(I'm guessing he uses it to line the bottom of Chuckie's cage g)

Re: New VSWITCH definition Best Practice

2011-04-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/05/2011 at 10:46 EDT, Jeff Gribbin jeff.grib...@gmail.com wrote: (I'm guessing he uses it to line the bottom of Chuckie's cage g) I am taking names. Irrelevantly, one notes that it is common in some parts of the world to discover scorpions in your shoes. Hey, let's be careful

Re: New VSWITCH definition Best Practice

2011-04-05 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 04/05/2011 at 10:37 EDT, Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov wrote: Can you tell me where you have the Best Practices document? Document? What document? That's like asking for the complete list of Alan's Rules for Networking. This listserver is part of

Re: New VSWITCH definition Best Practice

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Post
On 4/5/2011 at 12:04 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: And if I wrote all my ideas down, no one would ever hire me. ;-) Even though scorpions are not known in Michigan, I'll refrain from comment anyway. Mark Post

New VSWITCH definition Best Practice

2011-04-04 Thread Alan Altmark
It's time for me to update my Best Practice for VSWITCH definition With the changes that were made to z/VM 6.1 for zEnterprise ensembles, but which benefit non-ensemble configurations, there's a new sheriff in town. Forget VLAN 666. Here's what you really want to see: DEFINE VSWITCH

VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3

2011-03-21 Thread Karl Kingston
Hi Folks I currently have a layer3 VSWITCH defined. This vswitch has been used for production guest machines so I don't want to break this. I have a need for a layer2 VSWITCH. My Layer2 VSWITCH is on CHPID 01, using devices 0D10-0D12. Current subnet is 10.207.1.x I want to add a Layer2

Re: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3

2011-03-21 Thread mike . wawiorko
though. Regards, Mike Barclays Bank _ From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Karl Kingston Sent: 21 March 2011 17:00 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3 Hi Folks I currently have a layer3 VSWITCH defined

Re: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3

2011-03-21 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Tom, Can I use devices 0D13-0D15 on CHPID 01 Be sure Q D13-D15 replies with OSA FREE. Or conversely, use Q OSA FREE to be sure these devices are available. Mike MacIsaac mike...@us.ibm.com (845) 433-7061

Re: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3

2011-03-21 Thread Bob McCarthy
: Monday, March 21, 2011 1:00 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3 Hi Folks I currently have a layer3 VSWITCH defined. This vswitch has been used for production guest machines so I don't want to break this. I have a need for a layer2 VSWITCH. My Layer2 VSWITCH

Re: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3

2011-03-21 Thread Alan Altmark
time, though you will find that restriction still in some host software. DEFINE VSWITCH does not have such a restriction. Alan Altmark z/VM and Linux on System z Consultant IBM System Lab Services and Training ibm.com/systems/services/labservices office: 607.429.3323 mobile; 607.321.7556

Re: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3

2011-03-21 Thread Frank M. Ramaekers
, March 21, 2011 1:18 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VSWITCH Layer2 Layer3 On Monday, 03/21/2011 at 02:14 EDT, Bob McCarthy bob.mccar...@custserv.com wrote: I run layer 2 and layer 3 on the same OSA. I believe that the addresses must begin on an even boundary, therefore you

Re: VSWITCH

2011-02-25 Thread Rob Holtz
I realize that this is a year old but I am trying to get a definitive answer about the earliest release of z/OS that will successfully use a VSWITCH as a guest. We sometimes have to resurrect an old z/OS release to solve a customer issue. I have been successful with z/OS 1.4 but now we

Re: VSWITCH

2011-02-25 Thread Daniel Allen
] On Behalf Of Rob Holtz Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 11:41 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: VSWITCH I realize that this is a year old but I am trying to get a definitive answer about the earliest release of z/OS that will successfully use a VSWITCH as a guest. We sometimes have

portgroup with vswitch IP routing

2011-01-31 Thread Rogério Soares
guys, i have tryed set up a vswitch on ip routing mode to use port group, but i can't i get group paramenter invalid... when i set up vswtich to ETHERNET, and make SET VSWITCH VSWSVC01 GROUP GRPSRV01 , i receive the error: HCPSWS2799E VSWITCH change is not allowed but after some seconds

Re: portgroup with vswitch IP routing

2011-01-31 Thread Scott Rohling
You should have gotten another message (HCP2830I) to explain what the state of the virtual switch is .. the message you got indicates the command couldn't complete because of the current state of the vswitch. HELP HCP2830I will show several different variations of the possible states

Re: portgroup with vswitch IP routing

2011-01-31 Thread Alan Altmark
On Monday, 01/31/2011 at 05:35 EST, Rogério Soares rogerio.soa...@gmail.com wrote: guys, i have tryed set up a vswitch on ip routing mode to use port group, but i can't i get group paramenter invalid... when i set up vswtich to ETHERNET, and make SET VSWITCH VSWSVC01 GROUP GRPSRV01 , i

Re: portgroup with vswitch IP routing

2011-01-31 Thread Rogério Soares
Thanks Alan... :) On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 9:07 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.comwrote: On Monday, 01/31/2011 at 05:35 EST, Rogério Soares rogerio.soa...@gmail.com wrote: guys, i have tryed set up a vswitch on ip routing mode to use port group, but i can't i get group paramenter

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Sue Farrell
Did VSWSVC01 used to be an IP VSWITCH? Have you made the appropriate change in the Linux configuration files to make the interface Layer 2? Regarding the Q NIC output, it looks like you must have all the latest 6. 1 service on because there's now a QUERY NIC Class B command. If you wish

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Rogério Soares
Hi Sue, I got the problem, when i created the vswitch i set it to ETHERNET, it can be IP VSWITCH without problem? I reinstall the linux enabling LAYER 2 SUPPORT and works great!.. if possible, can you tell me how enable layer 2 support after installed ? i found option

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Sue Farrell
Glad it's working now. I believe all you need to do to enable Layer 2 is what you already did - setting QETH_LAYER2_SUPPORT to '1'. Leave LLADDR blank. Then Linux will use the MAC address assigned to the virtual NIC.

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Rogério Soares
abou IP VSWITCH i can set it to IP ou i should keep it on ETHERNET ? i have no problem today with ip vswitch, what you think? i enjoy the moment and change it to ethernet or i can still using ip vswitch ? thanks for help , and forgive if is a noob question.. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:13 PM

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread David Boyes
abou IP VSWITCH i can set it to IP ou i should keep it on ETHERNET ? i have no problem today with ip vswitch, what you think? i enjoy the moment and change it to ethernet or i can still using ip vswitch ? For Linux systems, I generally recommend ETHERNET. That uses slightly more CPU

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Sue Farrell
I agree with what David said about using ETHERNET. In addition, if you want to use Link Ag, you have to use ETHERNET. :-) Sue

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Marcy Cortes
If you are using LACP, must be ETHERNET. (Layer 2) Marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rogério Soares Sent: Friday, January 21, 2011 7:18 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] definition of guest using port group and vswitch

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Rogério Soares
Great David, i haven't zos today, when it comes, we create a new vswitch... i will get you advice, i will enjoy the moment to change it to ethernet... :) thanks again :) On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:24 PM, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: abou IP VSWITCH i can set it to IP ou i should

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-21 Thread Rogério Soares
Soares *Sent:* Friday, January 21, 2011 7:18 AM *To:* IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU *Subject:* Re: [IBMVM] definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation abou IP VSWITCH i can set it to IP ou i should keep it on ETHERNET ? i have no problem today with ip vswitch, what you

definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Rogério Soares
Dear friends, i have a new problem today.. For the first time i tryed set a vswitch using port group definitions using: set port group grpsrv01 join 1D00.P0 1E00.P0 Port group GRPSRV01 is created Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:19:10 DEFINE VSWITCH VSWSVC01 ETHERNET RDEV 0800.P0 GROUP GRPSRV01

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Marcy Cortes
There is nothing special on the NIC to use a VSWITCH that has LACP. Did you do the grant? Marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rogério Soares Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Scott Rohling
have a new problem today.. For the first time i tryed set a vswitch using port group definitions using: set port group grpsrv01 join 1D00.P0 1E00.P0 Port group GRPSRV01 is created Ready; T=0.01/0.01 11:19:10 DEFINE VSWITCH VSWSVC01 ETHERNET RDEV 0800.P0 GROUP GRPSRV01 VSWITCH SYSTEM

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Rogério Soares
special on the NIC to use a VSWITCH that has LACP. Did you do the grant? Marcy From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Rogério Soares Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 12:07 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [IBMVM] definition of guest

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Scott Rohling
You really need to see this from the z/VM logon - before Linux is even booted. We need to see if CP complains about anything when it creates the NIC. We need to know why address 800 is not created (or is not coupled to the vswitch) - the messages at z/VM guest logon will provide valuable clues

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Rogério Soares
address 800 is not created (or is not coupled to the vswitch) - the messages at z/VM guest logon will provide valuable clues. Scott Rohling 2011/1/20 Rogério Soares rogerio.soa...@gmail.com on boot i have only lo ..doneWaiting for mandatory devices: eth0 __NSC__ 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Scott Rohling
Have you actually rebooted the guest from logon? This is saying your NIC is defined as an IP transport -- but the VSWITCH is ETHERNET. Did you mean to use ETHERNET or IP transport? From HELP HCP6024E: o The transport type of the NIC is set when either it has been coupled to a Guest LAN

Re: definition of guest using port group and vswitch (link aggregation

2011-01-20 Thread Rogério Soares
yes, i have logoff and logon this machine after set up... on user direct, i do this definition: 02129 NICDEF 0800 TYPE QDIO LAN SYSTEM VSWSVC01 to use port group, i should set the vswitch to ETHERNET... :-/ On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.comwrote: Have

Re: vswitch delete

2011-01-13 Thread Paul Garment
DET VSWITCH VSW1 Regards, Paul Garment Global z/OS Virtual Host Environment Global z/OS Core Engineering Ground Floor - B3 Block 10 - Radbroke Hall Knutsford, Cheshire WA16 9EU Mail Van 49 Tel: 0044 (0)1565-614429 Clearway 7-2000-4429 Mobile 07824527131

vswitch delete

2011-01-12 Thread Dean, David (I/S)
Sorry to pose a seemingly simple question here, but I have now spent over an hour looking for the command. How do I delete a vswitch? i.e. the opposite of DEFINE VSWITCH VSW1 RDEV D905 AC00 CONTROLLER * David M. Dean Information Systems BlueCross BlueShield Tennnessee

Re: vswitch delete

2011-01-12 Thread Bob McCarthy
David DETACH VSWITCH VSW1 Bob From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Dean, David (I/S) Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:14 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: vswitch delete Sorry to pose a seemingly simple

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Les Koehler
Back in the old days, I recall a finance type person saying something like: The Gold Standard is that it should take collusion between two or more people to defraud the company. If we apply that to IT, then shouldn't pswds for privileged userids that can access/change financial data be long

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Tom Huegel
Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems that the high level security effort belongs in those OS's. z/VM just needs to keep those systems isolated and NOT be able to circumvent their security procedures. On Fri, Dec

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Mike Walter
To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems that the high level security effort belongs in those OS's. z/VM just needs to keep

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Scott Rohling
to another guest minidisk if they are used and known, regardless of the OS they are running. Same with allowing any guest access to a network path (our vswitch conversation). To 'just keep those systems isolated' - an ESM is the only way you can avoid violating most modern security requirements

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Bill Munson
have other VM's for running LINUX or VSE . Granted it is a vast minority of what it was 10, 15, and 20 years ago. munson From: Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/10/2010 09:16 AM Subject:Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Sent

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Colin Allinson
Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote :- Does anyone run applications in z/VM? :- Speaking for ourselves - yes. We recently did an exercise to look at the support effort required to maintain our VM system and came to the conclusion that at least 80% was related to local applications and local

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Dave Jones
: 12/10/2010 09:16 AM Subject:Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Wandschneider, Scott
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 8:16 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 12/10/2010 at 05:46 EST, Les Koehler vmr...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Back in the old days, I recall a finance type person saying something like: The Gold Standard is that it should take collusion between two or more people to defraud the company. Preventing collusion between two

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Subject Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Tom, as Mike said there are a lot of companies I know of that are using CMS applications for day to day work and the DATA resides on VM they are using FOCUS for report generation , as well as MAILBOOK for e-mail and interoffice file

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread McKown, John
...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Some companies in the past preferred to confine application programmers to CMS due to the large overhead of TSO address

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Mark Pace
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of George Henke/NYLIC Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 10:53 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Some companies in the past preferred to confine application programmers to CMS due to the large overhead

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-10 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 12/10/2010 at 09:17 EST, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone run applications in z/VM? Isn't the 'protected data' owned by some other OS (z/OS, z/VSE, zLINUX). It seems that the high level security effort belongs in those OS's. z/VM just needs to keep those systems

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread David Boyes
It is a hard sell to management to buy an ESM if there is no audit requirement. Thus my point about IBM quitting whining to us about buying one and start supplying one by default as the Right and Proper Way.

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread David Boyes
On 12/9/10 3:27 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: In order to achieve the savings you imply, then z/VM must move to the z/OS model in which, except for a few specific functions, an ESM is required for proper operation. NO native CP security controls beyone those required to

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: I've been saying for several years, You need an ESM.   More and more z/VM security management will be focused on ESMs, not native CP.  If your fave ESM doesn't simplify things for you, gripe to the vendor. That's

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? On Wednesday, 12/08/2010 at 03:11 EST, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote: But, should you have to have an external security manager for a system where

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Tom Huegel
[mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 8:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? On Wednesday, 12/08/2010 at 03:11 EST, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote: But, should you have

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Huegel Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 11:01 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? snip Don't you just love the airport

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Schuh, Richard
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has come up with to destroy the American economy, and in fact the American way of life. Besides all of our passwords are probably available on Wikileaks anyway

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
12:00 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has come up with to destroy the American economy, and in fact

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 12/09/2010 12:00 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/09/2010 at 12:01 EST, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has come up with to destroy the American economy, and in fact the American way of life. When you read the law, you find that SOX is simply a way to hold

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Mark Post
On 12/9/2010 at 01:36 PM, George Henke/NYLIC george_he...@newyorklife.com wrote: Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has come up with to destroy the American economy, and in fact the American way of life. Given the current real life demands on our moderator, could we kill

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Bill Munson
good point Mark Bill Munson From: Mark Post mp...@novell.com To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Date: 12/09/2010 01:46 PM Subject:Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? Sent by:The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU On 12/9/2010 at 01:36 PM

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? On Thursday, 12/09/2010 at 12:01 EST, Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com wrote: Does it really matter? SOX is just another way congress has come up with to destroy the American

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 12/09/2010 at 11:41 EST, Schuh, Richard rsc...@visa.com wrote: Not necessarily, there is LOGONBY. They need only know their own passwords. They logon and access USER DIRECT. Now they know ALL the passwords. Of course, you can have LBYONLY for everyone. But that misses the

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-09 Thread O'Brien, Dennis L
You would HAVE to buy an ESM, whether from IBM or CA. Or have IBM include a basic awful one (eg, RACF) in the price of VM and be done with it. Including a basic one that can be replaced with Something Else would make everybody (IMHO) happy. The internal cost of including RACF can't be that large.

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread RPN01
. Is there anyone out there that actually gains security from CP users not being granted onto their vSwitches? How many people would like to be able to define a vSwitch as open to the public or not requiring a grant to be accessed? -- Robert P. Nix Mayo Foundation.~. RO-OC-1-18

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread gclovis
Hi, CP DEFINE LAN have a UNRESTRICTED option, that don't need the grants. My suggestion: If the environment is stable, fix the VSWITCH and GRANTS into SYSTEM CONFIG. If the system is unstable or is in the test phase, test with the unrestricted lan. Only NICDEF changes in directory

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Lee Stewart
/2010 8:29 PM, Marcy Cortes wrote: Add the couple command in there too. Marcy. Sent from my BlackBerry. - Original Message - From: The IBM z/VM Operating SystemIBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDUIBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Tue Dec 07 21:25:07 2010 Subject: [IBMVM] Vswitch

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Quay, Jonathan (IHG)
I don't. I don't have any human beings on my systems except for system programmers that have full authority anyway. Having to GRANT linux servers is an extra thing that has to be managed. I would like to define a vswitch as unrestricted. -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Tom Huegel
Or maybe put a password on the VSWITCH that would allow a class G user to connect if he knew the password. On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Quay, Jonathan (IHG) jonathan.q...@ihg.comwrote: I don't. I don't have any human beings on my systems except for system programmers that have full

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/08/2010 at 08:31 EST, RPN01 nix.rob...@mayo.edu wrote: Is there anyone out there that actually gains security from CP users not being granted onto their vSwitches? How many people would like to be able to define a vSwitch as open to the public or not requiring a grant

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread David Boyes
On 12/8/10 4:15 PM, Quay, Jonathan (IHG) jonathan.q...@ihg.com wrote: I don't. I don't have any human beings on my systems except for system programmers that have full authority anyway. Having to GRANT linux servers is an extra thing that has to be managed. I would like to define a vswitch

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread RPN01
have to go grant a virtual machine into the virtual switch.) We even have jacks and wireless in the patent waiting areas so that they can get internet access, and they don't need to be granted in either. The vSwitch grant is not in any way mimicking a real life scenario. It doesn't compare

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Tom Huegel
for system programmers that have full authority anyway. Having to GRANT linux servers is an extra thing that has to be managed. I would like to define a vswitch as unrestricted. Is there anyone out there that actually gains security from CP users not being granted onto their vSwitches? How many

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
first. Tom Huegel tehue...@gmail.com Sent by: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU 12/08/2010 03:10 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 12/08/2010 at 02:35 EST, David Boyes dbo...@sinenomine.net wrote: OTOH, I think this also argues for a bigger step: for IBM to supply a default ESM and quit having to do it two different ways. We can always replace the default one with something better, but there's a lot of

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-08 Thread Alan Altmark
I have to go grant a virtual machine into the virtual switch.) We even have jacks and wireless in the patent waiting areas so that they can get internet access, and they don't need to be granted in either. The vSwitch grant is not in any way mimicking a real life scenario. It doesn't compare

Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Lee Stewart
It seems to me... Rather than putting a Vswitch Grant for each Linux guest somewhere like AUTOLOG1's PROFILE EXEC, I thought I'd try putting a CMD SET VSWITCH VSW1 GRANT USERID in the directory profile for the Linux guests... Alas, it seems that the GRANT isn't processed till after

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
Add the couple command in there too. Marcy. Sent from my BlackBerry. - Original Message - From: The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Sent: Tue Dec 07 21:25:07 2010 Subject: [IBMVM] Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Kris Buelens
...@attglobal.net It seems to me... Rather than putting a Vswitch Grant for each Linux guest somewhere like AUTOLOG1's PROFILE EXEC, I thought I'd try putting a CMD SET VSWITCH VSW1 GRANT USERID in the directory profile for the Linux guests... Alas, it seems that the GRANT isn't processed

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Tom Huegel
Stewart lstewart.dsgr...@attglobal.netwrote: It seems to me... Rather than putting a Vswitch Grant for each Linux guest somewhere like AUTOLOG1's PROFILE EXEC, I thought I'd try putting a CMD SET VSWITCH VSW1 GRANT USERID in the directory profile for the Linux guests... Alas, it seems

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
What Kris said is right. The 2nd time through you already have the access so it appears to work After you IPL or destroy your vswitch, it wouldn’t work on the first login. Drove me crazy. Of course, I hate Grants ☺ Marcy This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/07/2010 at 11:27 EST, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: What Kris said is right. The 2nd time through you already have the access so it appears to work After you IPL or destroy your vswitch, it wouldn’t work on the first login. Drove me crazy. Of course, I

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Scott Rohling
If you use RACF - permitting user's to the VSWITCH only needs to be done once. :-) Say goodbye to GRANT. Scott Rohling On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.comwrote: What Kris said is right. The 2nd time through you already have the access so it appears

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Marcy Cortes
z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:32 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: [IBMVM] Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory? On Tuesday, 12/07/2010 at 11:27 EST, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com

Re: Vswitch Grant as a CMD in User's Directory?

2010-12-07 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 12/07/2010 at 11:37 EST, Marcy Cortes marcy.d.cor...@wellsfargo.com wrote: Well, you know... there's only the 1 ESM that uses them and we don't use *that* one. I'll tolerate the grants rather than switch ESMs :) My mistake. I would have figured that by now all ESMs would

Re: No IPL VSWITCH Connectivity

2010-11-18 Thread George Henke/NYLIC
Just a coda on this problem and a special thank you to both Alan and Sue Farrell who hit the bull's eye. Portname in the define VSWITCH was indeed the problem as Sue explains: If you have defined your VSWITCH exactly like you first mentioned: define vswitch lnxvsw1 portname lnxvsw1 rdev 9004

Re: No IPL VSWITCH Connectivity

2010-11-04 Thread Peter . Webb
Same here. Peter -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Schmiedge Sent: November 3, 2010 18:21 To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: No IPL VSWITCH Connectivity Or if I weren't such a bad typer, TCVM1.zip

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