Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Thomas Kern
Thank you. Now can IBM present this type of materials to the organizations that train, manage and certify system auditors? Does IBM have any audit training classes, not just for z/VM but for any/all computer systems? /Tom Kern Alan Altmark wrote: On Friday, 09/25/2009 at 01:19 EDT, Thomas Kern

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Les Koehler Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:05 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set BTW: The 'old old days' I'm talking about is when we had terminal rooms full

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Mark Post
On 9/25/2009 at 1:55 AM, Alan Altmark alan_altm...@us.ibm.com wrote: On Friday, 09/25/2009 at 01:19 EDT, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: Alan, would IBM be interested in promoting a better list of auditing questions/checklists? If you follow the guidelines in the Secure

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Billy R. Bingham
As a matter of fact :) The WAVV committee has put together a list of topics that we're thinking about addressing at the next WAVV conference and Being Audit Ready is one of the topics we're considering. I'm sure that a session to address this could be added if this topic is one we wind up

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/25/2009 at 07:13 EDT, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: Now can IBM present this type of materials to the organizations that train, manage and certify system auditors? Does IBM have any audit training classes, not just for z/VM but for any/all computer systems? If those

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Billy R. Bingham
I think I replied to the wrong thread. It should have been the thread that was discussing auditing and auditors. Billy Billy R. Bingham billy.bingham...@suddenlink.net wrote: As a matter of fact :) The WAVV committee has put together a list of topics that we're thinking about

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Thomas Kern
I can understand IBM desire to not ruin their own business line. It would be nice if my clients hired IBM as their outside auditors, but... I did do a quick search on www.ibm.com for education and audit and found this class:

z/VM auditing (was: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set)

2009-09-25 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/25/2009 at 03:25 EDT, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: Now IBM should do a companion class of the same overview level for z/VM, with VSE, Linux and z/OS guests. If you and and sufficient number of others use the Contact Us link and request such training, it may well be

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Tony Thigpen
The following story was told to me by an IBM EC back about 1985. In Huntsville, AL, a few years earlier, a disgruntled employee went around the building, turned all the keys to off and removed them. He then walked out with them. Back then, there were several different key numbers used and it

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Schuh, Richard
...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Thigpen Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 3:12 PM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set The following story was told to me by an IBM EC back about 1985. In Huntsville, AL, a few years earlier, a disgruntled employee went

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread Tony Thigpen
is the VM/CMS timeout value set The following story was told to me by an IBM EC back about 1985. In Huntsville, AL, a few years earlier, a disgruntled employee went around the building, turned all the keys to off and removed them. He then walked out with them. Back then, there were several different

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-25 Thread P S
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Tony Thigpen t...@vse2pdf.com wrote: The following story was told to me by an IBM EC back about 1985. In Huntsville, AL, a few years earlier, a disgruntled employee went around the building, turned all the keys to off and removed them. He then walked out with

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Kris Buelens
SYSTEM CONFIG, Features, DISCONNECT_TIMEout And, it is not only for CMS, but for any CP or VM Read, and forced Disconnect. 2009/9/24 Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR) terry.mar...@cms.hhs.gov Hi Where do you set the timeout value for an idle VM/CMS user for automatic logoff? *Thank

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:ib...@listserv.uark.edu] On Behalf Of Kris Buelens Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 9:30 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set SYSTEM CONFIG, Features, DISCONNECT_TIMEout And, it is not only

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Mike Walter
to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set Hi Where do you set the timeout value for an idle VM/CMS user for automatic logoff? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Martin, Terry R. (CMS/CTR) (CTR)
AM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set Hi Where do you set the timeout value for an idle VM/CMS user for automatic logoff? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Les Koehler
Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set Hi Where do you set the timeout value for an idle VM/CMS user for automatic logoff? Thank You, Terry Martin Lockheed Martin - Information Technology z/OS z/VM Systems

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Les Koehler
04:03 PM Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set In the 'old old days', I was once told that a long-time idle CMS user only occupied one 4k page of storage, so

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Les Koehler
Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set In the 'old old days', I was once told that a long-time idle CMS user only occupied one 4k page of storage, so it was pointless to risk the damage to them from forcing them off. Have things changed? Or does your site have a very unusual workload

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Les Koehler
Please respond to The IBM z/VM Operating System IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU To IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU cc Subject Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set In the 'old old days', I was once told that a long-time idle CMS user only occupied one 4k page of storage, so it was pointless to risk

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Thomas Kern
At least they are beginning to ask better questions. Now we have to get them a Volume 2, 'The Right Questions To Ask When Auditing a VM System' Alan, would IBM be interested in promoting a better list of auditing questions/checklists? /Tom Kern Rich Greenberg wrote: On: Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at

Re: Where is the VM/CMS timeout value set

2009-09-24 Thread Alan Altmark
On Friday, 09/25/2009 at 01:19 EDT, Thomas Kern tlk_sysp...@yahoo.com wrote: Alan, would IBM be interested in promoting a better list of auditing questions/checklists? If you follow the guidelines in the Secure Configuration Guide (sans mandatory access controls, if desired) you have a pretty