sorry guys.... i read, but almost never post. someone pointed out that i should still be using PROFs (OV for the "newcomers"... ), and i have to agree. forgive me for praising the thoughtfulness of one of my folks.... in front of everyone. dang.... just glad it wasn't one of my notes to barton... :-) we'd all be blushing. BTW.... i never really felt i left, but it's soooo nice to be back working on VM "stuff".... Regards, Len (see those of you that can make it, at SHARE..)