Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-11 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Kris Buelens kris.buel...@gmail.com wrote: At my former customer, we created several RACF groups.  To name a few:   LBSYST to control LOGONBY to various users by system programmers   LBOPER for the operators' group   SYSALL to permit the system programmers to

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-10 Thread Vogtmann, Wallace B
To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: zVM User Definitions Good point, Kris. We actually do the same.. we have a VMADMINS group -- and give that permissiong to LOGONBY. We add/remove people from the VMADMINS group - not all the defininitions it may be part of. It 'is' a much better way

zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Vogtmann, Wallace B
We're new to zVM. Have the system operational with standard IBM supplied User/Guest definitions. For example, we've implemented RACF, DIRMAINT, PERF TK (soon Omegamon XE). Our security folks don't really like us logging in as MAINT, TCPMAINT, RACMAINT, etc. to do our changes - can't really tell

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Edward M Martin
330-363-5050 Ext 35050 -Original Message- From: The IBM z/VM Operating System [mailto:IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Vogtmann, Wallace B Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 11:28 AM To: IBMVM@LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: zVM User Definitions We're new to zVM. Have the system operational

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
My suggestion would be to use RACF SURROGAT ..For example: RAC RDEF SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT RAC PERMIT LOGONBY.MAINT CL(SURROGAT) ID(YOURID) ACC(READ). Now, when you login to maint -- they will know who did it. You would login to MAINT using: LOGON MAINT BY YOURID And enter YOURID

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Bruce Hayden
And of course: RAC SETROPTS CLASSACT(SURROGAT) On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Scott Rohling scott.rohl...@gmail.com wrote: My suggestion would be to use RACF SURROGAT ..    For example: RAC RDEF SURROGAT LOGONBY.MAINT RAC PERMIT LOGONBY.MAINT CL(SURROGAT) ID(YOURID) ACC(READ). Now, when

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
Ah - and maybe RAC SETROPTS NORACLIST(SURROGAT) unless you like having to do a REFRESH whenever SURROGAT definitions are fiddled with. Thanks, Bruce! ;-) Scott Rohling On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Bruce Hayden bjhay...@gmail.com wrote: And of course: RAC SETROPTS CLASSACT(SURROGAT) On

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 03/09/2011 at 11:29 EST, Vogtmann, Wallace B wvogt...@tcfbank.com wrote: We're new to zVM. Have the system operational with standard IBM supplied User/Guest definitions. For example, we've implemented RACF, DIRMAINT, PERF TK (soon Omegamon XE). Our security folks don't really

Re: zVM User Definitions

2011-03-09 Thread Scott Rohling
Good point, Kris. We actually do the same.. we have a VMADMINS group -- and give that permissiong to LOGONBY. We add/remove people from the VMADMINS group - not all the defininitions it may be part of. It 'is' a much better way to manage things. You do need to make sure GROUPLIST is YES so