On Tue, 6 May 2008 18:49:08 -0600, you wrote:
>Can chestnuts have a dun stripe?
Yes.
Mic
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On Tue, 06 May 2008 20:06:48 -, you wrote:
>The carrot stick is entirely rigid
As is a bamboo cane painted orange, with a bit of rope fastened to the
end
; )
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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2008/5/6 Ann Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> That looks like Glefsa's stripe, we see it only in her summer coat.
> She is not a true dun, is Guisti? Mic described her markings as
> "primitive". Does Guisti have some leg barring too?
No leg barring, but he does have it in his winter coat too. My
da
Here is a video from today's ride with my neighbor.
We did a lot of trotting and cantering. Sharon's
horse is a Holsteiner and they do three day eventing.
Phinn has a huge stride - his easy canter makes
Whisper gallop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EfNq6ZQGGk
I will definately have to find
THE BLURRY LINE BETWEEN AIDS AND CUES
By Ron Meredith
President, Meredith Manor International Equestrian Centre
As a horse works its way up the training tree, its handler needs to stay
aware of the difference between an aid and a cue or signal. A lot of people
mythunderstand the difference beca
Gusti is what I would call apricot coloured in the summer, and he HAS
> > a dun stripe. Can chestnuts have a dun stripe?
>
That looks like Glefsa's stripe, we see it only in her summer coat.
She is not a true dun, is Guisti? Mic described her markings as
"primitive". Does Guisti have som
On May 6, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Pat Grimmer wrote:
> Hi Debbie,
>
> Do you know if there is any documentation re: the shoeing to
> manipulate
> her way of going? A co-worker said that he had heard nothing about it
> and
> refuses to believe that it was or could have been done. I would like
> to
>I got to play with some ponies today; some were very interesting colors.
This one is Rusty, who is called a pinto. He's mostly white, with blue eyes,
and has a couple of roan-y type spots.
Judy
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Raven
Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies
Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies
Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze
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Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
If the coat is brown all the time (and especially if inside the ears is
cream too) it's probably smoky.
>>> or dun :) Janice
Or brown... Ima fits that description, but I don't believe that she has the
cream gene (mom certainly doesn't and I don't think Bragur could from the
way he
Pat, Let me look through the comments and see,
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I use a rake like that for the poop, I love it for dragging the Poop
spots and for our gravel areas, but, I don't think it will work on the
roots...
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Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.
Gusti is what I would call appricot coloured in the summer, and he HAS
a dun stripe. Can chestnuts have a dun stripe?
Pictures?
Karen Thomas, NC
Hi Debbie,
Do you know if there is any documentation re: the shoeing to manipulate
her way of going? A co-worker said that he had heard nothing about it and
refuses to believe that it was or could have been done. I would like to be
able to show him that he is wrong if possible. Are there a
>>> But there's the prettiest older Arab mare boarded at Creekside. Black
>>> Sugar does not fade one bit.
Send her here - I'll betcha I can fade her. :)
Karen Thomas, NC
oh my gosh is this so sad! a 39 year old icelandic for sale or TRADE
for a similar price HORSE TRAILER
http://www.equinenow.com/horse-ad-39357
someone oughta go steal him!! wait. it says he was born in 1969 but
in the body of the ad it says he is a 2 year old hmmm. he is
3500.
Janice
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On 5/6/08, Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a "non-fading black arab mare" that was of some specific bloodline. and
> the purchase agreement specifically said it was a
> "non-fading black broodmare".
>
> That's interesting. Hunter (TWH) has a palamino grandsire and fades like
> crazy.
If the coat is brown all the
> time (and especially if inside the ears is cream too) it's probably
> smoky.
>
> Mic
>
or dun :)
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.
but any tack
> made in India is looked on as very shoddy over here.
>
> Mic
>
thats how we feel about mexican tack :)
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.
as My stud that I did own (sold to sweden) wasn´t at home at the time it should
have happened and my closesest (spelling) neighbour don´t own one
I´m think she has gotten pregnant at her Breeders place as I bought Pera last
winter january 2007 but didn´t arraive home to me untill 23 of may..
>
> Now, what's the procedure in detecting who the daddy is? Will you have to
> bloodtype the foal or do DNA on it?
>
I can take an DNA on the foal and Pera and the father if we find one!
> Hey Malin, this reminds me of a question I've had:Since it's a given or
> obvious all foals bor
Toby's cute, but I need to see a new picture of Sophie. How old is
she now? How much does she weigh?
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2008/5/6 Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I MEANT--- maybe buttercup and runa are chestnut with dun whereas
> arora may be sorrel with flaxen/mt with dun modifier, looks like it.
> Her dam was SD bay and her sire was blue dun, famous for throwing dun
> offspring..
Gusti is what I would call
a "non-fading black arab mare" that was of some specific bloodline. and
the purchase agreement specifically said it was a
"non-fading black broodmare".
That's interesting. Hunter (TWH) has a palamino grandsire and fades like
crazy. But there's the prettiest older Arab mare boarded at Creeks
> yes, there was someone posting on the gaited list i think it was once,
> maybe even here, but they were saying they had to wait til they could
> afford to buy their offical "carrot stick" from parelli in order to be
> effective and I was like, hello, its a freakin lunge whip! i mean,
> use you
It's literally a horse which is black but fades in the sun - very
common in Icelandics. Smoky black is black with a cream gene and can
look similar to faded black. The easy way to tell the difference is to
look at the new coat - if the horse is black when the new coat comes
through but goes brown,
On Tue, 6 May 2008 11:28:56 -0400, you wrote:
>I gather you like the bald-face
>horses, Mic, but I cringe whenever I see one!
No, I don't like them particularly, personally. I do quite like blue
eyes, but not bald faces. The first year I had the two splash white
mares here they got dreadful sun
On Tue, 6 May 2008 11:18:43 -0400, you wrote:
>Is that foal going to have a flaxen mane and tail?
Yes, I would think so - her mother does, and also has pangare along
with the pinto and splash.
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:51:06 -0400, you wrote:
> but I believe they are actually made in Pakistan.
>Does it really matter?
Yes, it does - the tanning process for leather is different in India
which means the leather is not as hard wearing as leather tanned in
the UK. I don't know about leather t
On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:51:06 -0400, you wrote:
>Is that the same "Ascot"? I don't see the same saddles on their site as I see
>on ebay.
>Beyond that, the key words would be "based in" the UK. Where are they made?
>From their website:
We are a family business, now into the third generation
On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:51:00 -0400, you wrote:
>Right off the bat, I can't think of a chestnut/flaxen that DOESN'T have the
>mealy mouth.
>Can anyone show me a picture of one...? Is it always seen in chestnut/flaxens?
Googling, there seems to be some confusion over pangare - apparently
the jury
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Ann Cassidy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What exactly is faded black? Is it a horse with the black gene that
> does not stayblack?
That was always my understanding, Ann. I'm not sure, but one thing I
am sure of is that it's a pain in the neck when it comes to Coggi
i know someone who sued a seller because her horse was fading black.
I guess a black arab is a sought after color? She drove to south fla
and paid for a "non-fading black arab mare" that was of some specific
bloodline. and the purchase agreement specifically said it was a
"non-fading black broodm
abby is beautiful Nancy!! The horse needs some bending exercises, it
looks alittle stiff :)
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.
there is some genetic disposition that differentiates between faded
black and non fading black. Something sorta like dapples. a horse
can be dappled grey or just grey. Also a grey horse can fade to
complete white in four years while some are still charcoal grey at ten
years. some things about c
oh my gosh I am SO jealous!! as a kid I was so madly in love with
zorro! even more than roy rogers or anybody!! He was my frist heart
throb actually :)
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.
> That's one thing that REALLY annoys me about the whole Parelli
> machine. Love some of their methods, but hate their "if you don't use
> our branded halter/stick/bridle/etcetcetc you are an abusive horse
> owner" philosophy.
>
yes, there was someone posting on the gaited list i think it was onc
Yikes as I look at that photo it looks like the clip from the
breastcollar to the cinch came undone. Luckily he was relaxed in the
parade and happy.
Ann
> I know nothing about horse colors, but he certainly is a handsome horse!<<
Thank you Nancy,
He is a great horse that is fearless sometimes and scared to death
others. I love him but do not know just how to make him consistent. He
is my favorite trail horse but at times gets it in his mind that
What exactly is faded black? Is it a horse with the black gene that
does not stayblack? Does it have anything to do with smoky black (Creme
gene)? MY Djangi is dark brown, no pangare. Is he faded black? He is
the second horse in the parade.
I don't know, but some black hor
>>>I know nothing about horse colors, but he certainly is a handsome horse!
Isn't that the truth! Any color is pretty on a nice horse, and if the horse
is nice, his color looks pretty. :) I think I developed a fondness for
palomino because of good associations - Trigger and Mr Ed, and a real
On Tue, 6 May 2008 10:16:00 -0400, you wrote:
>But, there are clinicians -
>some good and some horrible - who try to make you believe that their way is
>the only way.
That's one thing that REALLY annoys me about the whole Parelli
machine. Love some of their methods, but hate their "if you don'
Smoke, the horse she is riding in that photo had quite a history. With a
previous owner, he completed several hundreds, finished 76 miles of the
Tevis and was so reactive that he bucked the first time Bev got on him
every ride, even at home. Somehow, in Abby's hands, he was a changed horse.
I know nothing about horse colors, but he certainly is a handsome horse!
Nancy
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Abby missed a staff costume party at school, so she
> sent this photo in her
> absence.
Mrs. Zorro? That's great!
Susan in NV
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>>> And I think some breeds are completely mad in their colour rules, like the
>>> Exmoors,
>>> where if there's one speck of white anywhere they refuse to register a
>>> foal, even
>>> though you can trace it's ancestry back a million years
The American Quarter Horse registry has recently re
Me too. Our chestnut foal has it too.
Is that foal going to have a flaxen mane and tail? I'm trying to remember
seeing pangare
on a chestnut that doesn't have the flaxen mane and tail, and on the other
hand, trying to
remember a chestnut/flaxen WITHOUT pangere...?
Karen Thomas, NC
>>> That's not red dun - it's blue jean!
Oh no, I always get those confused
Karen Thomas, NC
--- Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here is a fine example of a chestnut/flaxen red dun
> pinto showing pangere
> and PERFECT conformation...but alas, no soft gaits.
That's not red dun - it's blue jean!
Susan in NV
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>>> Just goes to show, doesn't it? http://www.ascotsaddles.com/ Based in
>>> Camberley,
>>> Surrey, UK.
Is that the same "Ascot"? I don't see the same saddles on their site as I see
on ebay.
Beyond that, the key words would be "based in" the UK. Where are they made?
I know that
the
>>> Teev has pangare.
Right off the bat, I can't think of a chestnut/flaxen that DOESN'T have the
mealy mouth.
Can anyone show me a picture of one...? Is it always seen in chestnut/flaxens?
>>> and here is a pic of arora, Nasi's dam. She is red dun, looks maybe like
>>> some
>>> pangare?
O
I MEANT--- maybe buttercup and runa are chestnut with dun whereas
arora may be sorrel with flaxen/mt with dun modifier, looks like it.
Her dam was SD bay and her sire was blue dun, famous for throwing dun
offspring..
Janice--
even good horses have bad days sometimes.
I just noticed, Arora is red dun, but seems to have flaxen mane and
tail whereas Runa and Princess Buttercup have darker, flame red mane
and tail. Maybe arora and runa are chestnut with dun modifier while
Arora may be sorrel with flaxen mane and tail, with dun modifier.
Cause she does seem awful l
>>> I read a bit and was turned off too. I got the impression that he didn't
>>> like horses
>>> much and people less. I really want to read how to be successful not how
>>> hard it is to
>>> get anything right at all. He obviously hasn't met any ponies like my two
>>> angels <;D
>>> or peopl
> Anneliese and Penny H: how's the construction progressing on your
new
> houses?
>>You can tell by the lateness of this answer how far behind I am
with
>>just skimming posts.
>>After that, the old house will be spruced up and then y'all can
come
>>and visit.
>>Anneliese
New house
On Tue, 6 May 2008 08:13:40 -0400, you wrote:
>I doubt it, not for the price. Ascot made the infamous "ebay Icelandic
>saddle" I still
>have one of those and it's amazingly "ok" for what I paid for it...which was
>something
>like $180.
Just goes to show, doesn't it?
http://www.ascotsaddl
>>> Of my 6 Icelandics 5 have Pangare. Vina and Surtsey are seal brown, Glefsa
>>> a light bay
>>> and Bibi a buckskin. To me it seems that Pangare is pretty common.
I'd say so in Icelandic's, but not so common in other breeds. I know in other
breeds,
I've heard people mention "mealy mouth b
> International. That's the premise in their saddles
> - you get a saddle that's too wide,
> and pad to fit, taking away pads as the horse's
> muscles fill in.
The saddle itself is the right width, but the gullet
is too wide.
The saddle is on loan anyway - I was so impressed with
the wid
The tree is actually wide enough, but the gullet is too wide and bottom
out on
Deacon's spine.
I had a similar problem with the Wintec Wide. I was thrilled that they finally
had made a
saddle with wide enough gullet-plates, but the gullet channel was so wide that
it tended
to
a friend of ours has one and his pastures are awesome. Toby is so pretty!
Janice
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even good horses have bad days sometimes.
>>> I think they are possibly British - I have heard of them here...
I doubt it, not for the price. Ascot made the infamous "ebay Icelandic
saddle" I still
have one of those and it's amazingly "ok" for what I paid for it...which was
something
like $180. The leather isn't particularly ca
Me too. We use a chain harrow, but I think your landscape rake does a much
better job.
Nancy
On Mon, 5 May 2008 19:28:33 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
>Here are some pictures of an Ascot International
>saddle
I think they are possibly British - I have heard of them here...
Mic
Mic (Michelle) Rushen
On Mon, 5 May 2008 17:14:56 -0400, you wrote:
>To me, breeding "against" any color is just as problematic as breeding "for"
>a color.
I think breeding for colour is OK providing conformation and character
etc are put first in line, but if people actively breed against a
colour, you do run the ri
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