Re: [IceHorses] Fhoenix saddles

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
I am looking for an English saddle for one of my Icelandics and am tempted to try the Heather Moffett Fhoenix saddle. There are some old posts from 2006 on this list but has anyone tried one of these saddles? I am intrigued because it is a part treed saddle, with

Re: [IceHorses] Riding BIbi

2008-05-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
Ohmigosh. Is she ever cute! Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Riding BIbi

2008-05-13 Thread Raven
Look at Bibi...she's adorable!!! AnnI'm so happy for both of you. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this plan

Re: [IceHorses] Fund Raising

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/13/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Fund raising yuck. > > I particularly think that internet fund raising is a bunch of yuck. > > Why are we trying to raise money for people who can afford to own an > expensive horse? > > I just don't get it. its like the field trial "auctio

[IceHorses] Fhoenix saddles

2008-05-13 Thread jeenie56
I am looking for an English saddle for one of my Icelandics and am tempted to try the Heather Moffett Fhoenix saddle. There are some old posts from 2006 on this list but has anyone tried one of these saddles? I am intrigued because it is a part treed saddle, with a flexible tree in the cantle,

[IceHorses] "Slaughter of TB's for Profit" Bryant Gumbel

2008-05-13 Thread Raven
Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel. The May episode investigates the slaughter of thoroughbred horses for profit on HBO. Episode #134 http://www.hbo.com/realsports/stories/index.html Link to schedule http://tinyurl.com/pfvo7 Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind t

Re: [IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread Raven
Vnice! workyou guys have been busy. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie Rose, the cat who makes me sneeze http://www.myspace.com/iceponygoddess Respect ALL Earthlings. We are all animals of this planet. We are all creatures.

Re: [IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread Raven
>>For winter I thought we could board up a couple of the sides with plywood. Even heavy duty plastic would help cut down the wind, yet...still allow the sun to shine through to heat the inside up. Raven Lucy & Molly, the Girl Doggies Huginn & Dixie Chick, the Back Behind the Barn Ponies Maggie R

Re: [IceHorses] Fund Raising

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Fund raising yuck. I particularly think that internet fund raising is >>> a bunch of >>> yuck. Why are we trying to raise money for people who can afford to own an >>> expensive >>> horse? I just don't get it. I'm all for helping people. I'm all for helping poor people in natural

Re: [IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread Debbie K.
It is PERFECT, then you can store hay in there too.. a barn with a run in... I love it, and want one too! -- PNH Levels 1 & 2 Clinics, Rochester MN http://www.sittinghorse.us The Soul of a Horse ~ has touched my soul, may it touch yours too! ~ thesoulofahorse.com ~

[IceHorses] Re: Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread canne1972
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> Turning horses loose seems a little harsh for the horses.hunters, > >>> water, minerals, cold etc etcits not really a favor to them. > > > I've been googling this topic for a while now, and I'm startin

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread susan cooper
--- Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with this? Advice? Mom's horse, Fireman did this the first year he was here. We took him to the vet, and he said it would improve with exercise. It has, he hasn't locked up in 3 years. When it did lock, vet said to

Re: [IceHorses] Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
I think people tend to glamorize it though, like they are turning them back to wence they came A teenage girl who lives near us was going to turn her caged rabbits loose to return to nature. . We hope we talked her out of it. Nancy

[IceHorses] Fund Raising

2008-05-13 Thread Judy Ryder
Fund raising yuck. I particularly think that internet fund raising is a bunch of yuck. Why are we trying to raise money for people who can afford to own an expensive horse? I just don't get it. Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Turning horses loose seems a little harsh for the horses.hunters, >>> water, minerals, cold etc etcits not really a favor to them. I've been googling this topic for a while now, and I'm starting to think it's just an urban legend, not real. I can't find many - hardly any - substan

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> She really is a bit of an ugly duckling, but I can hardly look past her >>> soulful eyes. No one was more of an ugly duckling than Runa, and I think she's turned out very well - physically and mentally pretty and shaping up to be a easily trained and nicely gaited trail horse. Landi looks

Re: [IceHorses] Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread Skye and Sally ~Fire Island
Janice wrote> > > some very good stock is bred in back yards. Some very well bred stock is being abandoned. Maybe time for people to stop breeding at all unless they have homes already waiting in line or plan to keep the offspring... it is getting to be hard times for all I think. > > Jani

Re: [IceHorses] Really red Runa

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Runa is so pretty Karen Thanks. Runa was the most awkward looking, gawky...ok, homely filly I think I'd ever seen when she was about 2.5-3 years old. She looked like she was made of spare parts and I think each body part grew at separate times. Eventually though, I think all her parts gr

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
Thanks, Wanda. It's time for her to start to do domething anyway and I certainly could use the exercise. She can be my motivation. She really is a bit of an ugly duckling, but I can hardly look past her soulful eyes. Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] run in shed

2008-05-13 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/13 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Looks like a nice covered riding arena to me!! > > Renee My thoughts exactly. I could do a lot with a 30 by 40 shed in the middle of the winter. How tall is the ceiling Virginia? Wanda

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/13 Nancy Sturm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Does anyone have any experience with this? Advice? Solon had that when he was going throug his ugly duckling stage. It would spring so hard you could hear it. We took him for lots of walksand I mean lots. Up and down ditches...basically all ove

[IceHorses] run in shed

2008-05-13 Thread Docnshop2
Looks like a nice covered riding arena to me!! Renee **Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod000301)

Re: [IceHorses] Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> From: "canne1972" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The state of Illinois >>> predicts they will have close to 12,000 horse running loose in Shawnee >>> National Forrest by the end of the year. I'm just curious, could you point to a source that supports that? Twelve thousand horses is a LOT of horses

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Thanks, Janice. That's pretty much what I remember reading before I bought > her. I think the patella is more like the horse's "knee". > > Nancy > they told my cousin... in a young horse they can have a sudden growth spurt and the tendon doesnt keep up. My cousin thinks its because he worke

Re: [IceHorses] Really red Runa

2008-05-13 Thread Jacki Edens
Runa is so pretty Karen

Re: [IceHorses] Really red Runa

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
makes you wonder if buttercup will be as dark! Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Really red Runa

2008-05-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
Wow! Nancy

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
It is fixable by surgery but some say it can cause probs later in life so my cousin opted to not go that route. Instead he paid a young > girl to come out and ride him at a gentle rate Thanks, Janice. That's pretty much what I remember reading before I bought her. I think the patella is more

Re: [IceHorses] Really red Runa

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Karen Thomas, NC She's so pretty! V

Re: [IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:57 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're going to need about eight more horses if you're going to use that > only as a run-in! Is it as big as it looks? > It's about 30 x 40. I know it's bigger than the usual run-in but I figured it would be good for a sh

Re: [IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Does anyone have any experience with this? Advice? > > Nancy > is it what they call stifle lock nancy?? My cousins paso colt had it. It is fixable by surgery but some say it can cause probs later in life so my cousin opted to not go that route. Instead he paid a young girl to come out and

Re: [IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
You're going to need about eight more horses if you're going to use that only as a run-in! Is it as big as it looks? Karen Thomas, NC IceHorses Community for Photos and Videos: http://kickapps.com/icehorses "The greatest enemy of the truth very often i

Re: [IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 6:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=qdyrlpc.51d5u4w8&x=0&y=-b4iqu&localeid=en_US > These photos are of the 30' x 40' pole 'barn' structure on our property. I had hubby fence it in and we'll use it as a run-in. We need a gate, plus

[IceHorses] Run-In photos

2008-05-13 Thread vltupper
You're invited to view my online photos at the Gallery. Enjoy! You're invited to view these photos online at KODAK Gallery! Just click on View Photos to get started. http://www.kodakgallery.com/I.jsp?c=qdyrlpc.51d5u4w8&x=0&y=-b4iqu&localeid=en_US If you'd like to save this album, just

[IceHorses] Yrsa question

2008-05-13 Thread Nancy Sturm
I took one look at 2 1/2 year old Yrsa and fell in love. She's a charming doe-eyed little girl and I wanted her for myself - in addition to the therapy horse prospect we were hoping to finnd for Stephanie. When I handled Yrsa, just to see how she would react, her left hind leg locked up when I

[IceHorses] Speaking of wierd

2008-05-13 Thread susan cooper
--- Robyn Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We know we are weird, but it works for us : )). > Well, it's working for me, too! And Whisper and Andi are going down the street to see the dentist shortly. I am going to put a body wrap on each one, and visualize the end result and how good they

Re: [IceHorses] Talking Horse

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
i laughed out loud at the second one!! How do they do that. I gotta do that with stonewall... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

RE: [IceHorses] Test Your Knowledge of True Horsemanship

2008-05-13 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice, >>>I dont have LTJs new book yet Robyn, is this where I would find the details of the body wrap? My only concern and maybe this is where it stems from... as a 15 month old he somehow got a tarp hung on his back foot and went nuts racing around. After that i worked hard on desensitizin

Re: [IceHorses] The new and improved carwash...and its first use

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
he's like, "ol karen, every day, a new adventure" :) Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Test Your Knowledge of True Horsemanship

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> I think a promise wrap - actually I would use a body wrap - is a great idea. > When horses rush through narrow, or not so narrow openings, it is my > experience that they don't have a good sense of where they are in space - > the propriocetive part of the brain. Having the light pressure touch o

Re: [IceHorses] Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> I say everyone should stop the backyard breeding and only breed very > good stock. Let the market recover with supply and demand. > some very good stock is bred in back yards. Some very well bred stock is being abandoned, see my recent post about helping rescue horses, 28 just seized from a fan

Re: [IceHorses] breeding for gait

2008-05-13 Thread Lynn Kinsky
On May 13, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Janice McDonald wrote: > at the horse show my friend was asking a man who bereds gaited mules > if he had any gaited jacks. he said gaited jacks are a misnomer that > there is no such thing. he said when looking for gait to breed, you > look for a jack that "is on th

[IceHorses] Horrible Horse Market( Horses turned Loose)

2008-05-13 Thread canne1972
I thought everyone might find this bit of info fun and refreshing!! For many years my husband and I have gone to a gaited horse auction in Bowling Green, Ky. They sell around 400 head of gaited horses each sale (TWH, MFT, KMH, occasionally and Icelandic and every other gaited horse you can think

Re: [IceHorses] breeding for gait

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> > Well, isn't a stepping pace a gait? He doesn't sound > too bright! he was from tennessee haha janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

RE: [IceHorses] Test Your Knowledge of True Horsemanship

2008-05-13 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Virginia, >>>Is this where a Promise wrap would help? Or is that for something else? I think a promise wrap - actually I would use a body wrap - is a great idea. When horses rush through narrow, or not so narrow openings, it is my experience that they don't have a good sense of where they are

Re: [IceHorses] The ladies' man

2008-05-13 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/13 Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > which reminds me, you need a donkey or mule for your new place V ! > They really do seem to keep predators away. Actually my herd of Icelandics LIVES to chase things out of their pasture...so we don't really need a donkey here. However, I still wan

Re: [IceHorses] Test Your Knowledge of True Horsemanship

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 5:26 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > something about narrow spaces bothers him and I > dont know why. Is this where a Promise wrap would help? Or is that for something else? V

Re: [IceHorses] The ladies' man

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:10 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which reminds me, you need a donkey or mule for your new place V ! I think they're cute so maybe I will! Orri will need a playmate so he will stop pestering Gat--she squeals at him like he's a pest and he follows her ar

Re: [IceHorses] The ladies' man

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
which reminds me, you need a donkey or mule for your new place V ! They really do seem to keep predators away. A stray dog got in my pasture one day and curly ray went after him and terrorized him til he left with his tail between his legs. And they eat almost nothing (mine doesnt, but he is a mi

Re: [IceHorses] The ladies' man

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> Hmmm, maybe you should get him a girlfriend he can keep forever? then we would have babies we would have to keep forever! yi nothing cuter than a baby donkey! Janice-- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] breeding for gait

2008-05-13 Thread susan cooper
--- Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > he said gaited jacks > are a misnomer that > there is no such thing. he said when looking for > gait to breed, you > look for a jack that "is on the pacey side" that the > most gait a jack > gets is usually a stepping pace. Well, isn't a steppin

Re: [IceHorses] The ladies' man

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:40 PM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But > when I went out there he jumped up and brayed at me with his ears > flat, oooh so mad! > Janice > -- Hmmm, maybe you should get him a girlfriend he can keep forever? V

Re: [IceHorses] The ladies' man

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
curly's girlfriend left sunday. I thought they hated each other, have no idea if they bred or not but she was here an entire cycle plus two weeks. But when the owner led her to the trailer curly started running the fence having a tantrum calling her and she stepped up into the trailer with the fr

[IceHorses] breeding for gait

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
at the horse show my friend was asking a man who bereds gaited mules if he had any gaited jacks. he said gaited jacks are a misnomer that there is no such thing. he said when looking for gait to breed, you look for a jack that "is on the pacey side" that the most gait a jack gets is usually a ste

Re: [IceHorses] donations needed!

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
> > http://floridahorserescue.com/ > > > Oh Janice...I felt like throwing up when I saw the photo on their > website. Poor, poor horses. i dont know the story... but I went on a ride about a year ago and got lost and ended up at this farm thinking it was where the ride would be. All the hors

Re: [IceHorses] OT Garmin 301 GPS-Susan

2008-05-13 Thread sarah gibson
> Actually, I have a Garmin 305 and I LOVE IT! I have > mine set to show elapsed time, distance travelled, > Mile per hour, and Heartrate. The Conversion Kit is > available thru VMax: > http://www.vmaxept.com/masterpage.htm Thanks Susan! Sarah in MT

Re: [IceHorses] Using Google Earth for Trail Rides

2008-05-13 Thread Ann Cassidy
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's weird is the thing doesn't go to my horse with the address--it > goes to the house next door, but if I scroll down I can see my house, Me too, my address is not near my house but I can find it but it is not clea

Re: [IceHorses] Using Google Earth for Trail Rides

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Virginia Tupper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's weird is the thing doesn't go to my horse Meant house. (too dizzy to type) V

Re: [IceHorses] Using Google Earth for Trail Rides

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
What's weird is the thing doesn't go to my horse with the address--it goes to the house next door, but if I scroll down I can see my house, the pond and pasture and future barn. Cool. V (makes me dizzy)

[IceHorses] Attack on Horse by Dogs

2008-05-13 Thread Judy Ryder
http://cbs2.com/video/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy http://iceryder.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Centered Riding

2008-05-13 Thread pyramid
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:53:58AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: > thanks judy, important for all riders but PARTICULARLY with gaited > horses... through the years it interests me to see how my horses gait > differently with other riders. Just shows how much of gait is > affected by rider seat.

Re: [IceHorses] A windy day

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Karen Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, here's my Mother's Day present, blowing in the breeze. I've > had the shredded tarp car-wash long enough that it's about shot, so I got > the swim noodles added underneath yesterday. Beats cologne any day! > And b

Re: [IceHorses] donations needed!

2008-05-13 Thread Virginia Tupper
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://floridahorserescue.com/ > Oh Janice...I felt like throwing up when I saw the photo on their website. Poor, poor horses. V

[IceHorses] Re: donations needed!

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
ps the horses are all quality well-bred arabians from a breeding facility that I guess fell on hard times. Anyway, the 28 horses have been seized and need foster homes until the court date and then most likely will not be returned to the owner.. They will be located in the NW florida panhandle a

[IceHorses] donations needed!

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
I have posted about this group before. They do a lot of good around here and they are a straight up organization! If you have anything extra to donate to a good cause... it was on the news last night they have seized 28 horses from a farm near me, 4 were laying dead, starved to death in the pastu

[IceHorses] bug stuff

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
I am trying two new bug ideas that sound stupid but what the heck nothing else works hardly... Someone said listerine is cheaper than bug spray and works better on mosquitos. Spray it on yourself, your deck, your horse, wherever. Then someone said dryer fabric softener sheets keep gnats away, to

Re: [IceHorses] Centered Riding

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
On 5/12/08, Judy Ryder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WHAT CENTERED RIDING CAN DO FOR YOUR HORSE > > Author: Sam Morrison > > Have you ever marveled at the beauty and grace of a horse when he is free? > He moves in balance, can turn smoothly, goes forward easily and stops in > balance. Have you notic

Re: [IceHorses] Identifying gait from the saddle

2008-05-13 Thread Janice McDonald
yes the foxtrot would be interesting... they say their is a tail bob with a foxtrot, I wonder what the head does... Janice -- even good horses have bad days sometimes.

Re: [IceHorses] Identifying gait from the saddle

2008-05-13 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> You have so many that fox trot, it would be good to see the head from the >>> saddle of >>> that gait. I'm not sure I can hold the camera still enough to show it, at least not distinctly. Most horses have some nod with their foxtrot, but some actually hold their heads fairly still. Fo

Re: [IceHorses] Using Google Earth for Trail Rides

2008-05-13 Thread Wanda Lauscher
2008/5/12 Janice McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > if anyone wants, they can write me offlist and I will email you my > address, and you can go to google earth and see my house, and then see > the fifteen acres next door has so much junk on it you can see it from > outer space. That's impressive act

Re: [IceHorses] Our weekend

2008-05-13 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 12 May 2008 15:07:03 -0500, you wrote: >I sometimes fantasize about >dribbling rat poison in his cereal. I *think* you're joking (but then again - h) Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen