Re: [IceHorses] Western Tack in Germany

2008-07-23 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 03:28:27PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: Western tack is being sold in Germany; and hopefully will make it to Icelandic Horses (get rid of the nosebands! and let's have the riders learn to have better hands and not ride the horse's face!). http://tinyurl.com/6zb9r3

Re: [IceHorses] A Ride in Iceland

2008-07-18 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 08:40:11AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: A traveler from Hong Kong visits Iceland and rides an Icelandic Horse: http://myicelandjournal.blogspot.com/2008/07/day-8-horse-riding.html i wonder if his faster and bumpy is a trot? --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Treeless/mounting from the ground

2008-07-12 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 09:33:33PM -0700, Lorraine wrote: I always thought it was embarrasing to need a step to mount a 12.2 HH horse. if you end up on a horse, you never have anything to be embarrassed about regarding the process :) --vicka ps. my 6'2 husband has a 13h horse. now *that*

[IceHorses] white spots from stirrup rubbing

2008-07-11 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 08:28:33AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: about me? Is it that when the horse goes faster than a walk I sorta balance myself in the stirrups? Its me I know, just wish i could figure out what it is I am doing. It did not happen the first couple of times I rode trausti,

Re: [IceHorses] OT - My husband

2008-06-18 Thread pyramid
that is so very, very sad. my deepest condolences, and thank you so much for sharing the beautiful picture with us. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Tenderloin of Icelandic Horse

2008-06-17 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:21:34AM -0400, Renee Martin wrote: Oh gag. . . . That just makes me ill to think of it, like a recipe for Braised Dog or something. which is, of course, eaten in china . . . Yeah, I know. Been there twice to get my daughters. Doesn't change my opinion one

Re: [IceHorses] Tenderloin of Icelandic Horse

2008-06-17 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 10:43:08AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: but why would an icelander not eat just lamb and seafood. do they have chickens? because lamb and seafood aren't an adequate food supply, and if the horses were merely allowed to breed without culling, they would soon overrun

Re: [IceHorses] Tenderloin of Icelandic Horse

2008-06-16 Thread pyramid
http://tar.vox.com/library/post/todays-experiment-tenderloin-of-icelandic-horse.html Oh gag. . . . That just makes me ill to think of it, like a recipe for Braised Dog or something. which is, of course, eaten in china and south america. and here we eat braised cow and rotten cow milk,

Re: [IceHorses] Becoming a Centered Riding Instructor

2008-06-07 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 02:47:20AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: On 6/6/08, Judy Ryder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DEFINITIONS OF INSTRUCTOR STANDINGS Centered Riding, Inc., recognizes the following Instructor Levels: Section 2.1: Centered Riding Instructor Level I: The Level I

Re: [IceHorses] Wheat germ oil?

2008-06-06 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Jun 06, 2008 at 04:31:26PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: Does anyone supplement their horses with wheat germ oil? i did when i was a child in 4-h, with a welsh mare. it made her coat extremely glossy, is what i remember most. when i thought she was getting a bit fat i switched her to

Re: [IceHorses] What Bit for Tolt

2008-06-05 Thread pyramid
come on, folks, this is the icehorses list. the only acceptable answer is no bit at all, the tolt is done in a sidepull. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] MBT Shoes

2008-06-03 Thread pyramid
They are comfortable to wear and are supposed to keep you in better shape, improve your posture, and eliminate joint stress. Mary Midkiff mentions them in her newsletter this month. Anyone have them? i do. i think they were good for my ankles. they're now worn out enough that i only

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horses Tolting Thru Fire

2008-05-24 Thread pyramid
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 07:09:44PM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: walking past a campfire is way different than performing in an arena in the dark helo. of course it is, just as arena jumps are not exactly like fallen logs in the woods, and few riding trails contain car wash obstacles.

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horses Tolting Thru Fire

2008-05-23 Thread pyramid
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 09:15:41AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: i think alongside fire might be more descriptive. and as a trail skill goes, this one seems very high-level and impressive. The only horses that I think MIGHT be impressed (somewhat - maybe) with seeing worked with fire in

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horses Tolting Thru Fire

2008-05-22 Thread pyramid
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:55:53AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: http://icehorses.blogspot.com/2008/05/icelandic-horses-tolting-thru-fire.html i think alongside fire might be more descriptive. and as a trail skill goes, this one seems very high-level and impressive. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Centered Riding

2008-05-13 Thread pyramid
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:53:58AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: thanks judy, important for all riders but PARTICULARLY with gaited horses... through the years it interests me to see how my horses gait differently with other riders. Just shows how much of gait is affected by rider seat.

Re: [IceHorses] OT - sort of - Icelandic

2008-05-04 Thread pyramid
I tried to learn Hebrew on my own, had tapes I played in the car while driving - wonder what happened to those? i took it in school. i've never tried to learn a language from tapes, how well did you find that to work? cheers, --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] How To Ride An Icelandic Horse

2008-04-30 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 08:42:07PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: Ya gotta be kidding: http://www.wikihow.com/Ride-an-Icelandic-Horse if it's a wiki can you edit it? --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] OT - sort of - Icelandic

2008-04-30 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 06:21:06AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: And considering there are only about 300,000 Icelanders, even if you go to Iceland, you won't have many people to talk to there. How many billions of humans on the planet now? Iceland is a teeny-tiny speck on this earth, and

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Name

2008-04-29 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 04:24:38PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: Ofeig follows me around so much that I'm sure she thinks her name is Shadow. How does that translate into Icelandic? I think Shadow would be a lovely name for a foal. My dictionary says skuggi which is masculine. so the

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Brida and Jineta

2008-04-28 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 07:49:55AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: Can anyone find a picture of an icelandic saddle that is built for a balanced ride? my taller student riders are balanced in my hrimnir. i am still without camera, but when/if that gets fixed i'll post a picture. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Brida and Jineta

2008-04-28 Thread pyramid
http://www.hnakkar.is/myndir/Dupont_flex_tree.jpg The stirrup hangers are way up front, so that would be a brida saddle, not the jineta balanced style ride. i have no idea how the tree fits inside the saddle -- it is quilted and i think the flocking raises the cantle significantly, so the

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Brida and Jineta

2008-04-28 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 09:56:07AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: in the middle of the centered-riding instructor's program atm, Great! Too bad you don't have your camera! The pictures can be invaluable in helping to retain information and to use for baselines. *nods* it is. i miss my camera.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Brida and Jineta

2008-04-28 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:33:27AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: As previously mentioned, you can sometimes make yourself go in alignment in a brida saddle, but it's not the same as having the natural balance in a jineta saddle. i didn't realign my students for this -- i was just checking.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Brida and Jineta

2008-04-28 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 06:27:54PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: I think I have a picture of the Wintec Wide gullet system, the ones that are made for really wide horses. If I can find it, I'll send it for comparison. i think i sent the list a set of pictures of stjarni's extra-wide hrimnir back

Re: [IceHorses] About The Canter

2008-04-18 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 08:31:18AM +0100, Mic Rushen wrote: On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:19:33 -0700, you wrote: It is a principle to which all experience masters subscribe that a horse should never be galloped before having been suppled with the trot so that it neither bears on the hands nor

Re: [IceHorses] Mats!!

2008-04-07 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 04:18:28PM -0300, Virginia Tupper wrote: Orri is shedding like crazy. When I was brushing him I noticed that he has some matting around the armpits. How can I get rid of those? i've had good luck with a metal comb and a dog slicker brush on stjarni. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 07:28:38AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: Anyway, I think we need to come up with a different term other than traditional riding when talking about what is currently done. I agree too. Could it be called european style riding? But that would include Mic in

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Gaits and Icelandic-style Trainers

2008-03-31 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 09:18:13PM +0300, Skise wrote: I like the show style better. Five-gaited style makes you think everything is ok when you ride them four-gaited but it goes bad when you start riding them five-gaited. And I don't think forcing the gait is the only problem with this

Re: [IceHorses] Trail or Arena

2008-03-28 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 09:34:45PM -, Judy Ryder wrote: That is exactly how it was with me and my baby sister. I was on the trails and she was doing dressage and jumping. I could not understand why she would want to be stuck in an arena, and she couldn't understand what was of

Re: [IceHorses] Mounting Block

2008-03-27 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 04:52:43PM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: i dont really care that horses do this or not. 99% of all redneckers field trial horses ground tie like the rock of gibraltor and would not even dream of moving even a hair while being mounted. but most are trained to do it by

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Sensation Stirrup Hanger

2008-03-27 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 07:06:34AM -0700, Kaaren Jordan wrote: The endurance set up eliminates the pressure from the stirrup attachment at the top which is triangulated through the internal rigging via the hard use buckle with hard use. Putting it at the bottom eliminates any top pressure.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Sensation Stirrup Hanger

2008-03-27 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 06:32:12PM +0200, Skise wrote: as a rider and teacher i have one thing i LOVE LOVE LOVE about the fixed stirrups: they stay where they are when you drop your stirrups. [...] For me that's just why I dislike the fixed stirrups. If I want to work without stirrups

Re: [IceHorses] Massachusetts

2008-03-27 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:48:03PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: I may be in MA for the Memorial week; if anyone wants me to stop by, let me know. let me know if you'd like to come meet stjarni and me! (and if we are VERY lucky, my husband may have a second icey by then as well :) bring yer own

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 12:40:54PM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: Vicka you WROTE that article, hello, you havent seen the pic?? *laughs* no, actually, i haven't (and only found out after my last post here that the article was a summary of a writeup i did after the equine affaire demo -- my

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:56:09AM -0700, susan cooper wrote: horses speak louder than photographs. Maybe that's because your pony is s grateful to not be ridden by a cantle sitting, mouth yanking yahoo. i'll try to take that as a compliment to my horsemanship and that of my students,

Re: [IceHorses] Collection in Tolt

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 09:24:04PM -0700, Lorraine wrote: There is no collection in tolt. The frame of the horse in tolt is diametrically opposed to collection. It just doesn't happen. That is good to know. With my MFT it helped the foxtrot to collect him. So I figured it was

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Custom Saddle Maker Will Not Sell Me a Saddle--This is goodcust

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 10:04:48AM -0400, Renee Martin wrote: Thanks Kaaren for that explanation. I can definitely see the connundrum of the matter. I was just commenting the other day in a private e-mail what a catch-22 situation many of us have: We're larger riders, so we choose the

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 06:54:41AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: You know, I can't think of a GOOD trainer/clinician that doesn't have a few stories that they tell with sadness of some of the bad mistakes they've made with horses. Many will tell you a LOT of sad stories. Certainly us

Re: [IceHorses] Custom Saddle Maker Will Not Sell Me a Saddle--This is good customer service

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:45:05PM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: maybe they want the saddle so narrow that it doesnt go around the horse at all, like wearing a little pill box hat on top of the tabletop of the wide back.?? i hate to say this but i find that image adorable. i'd want stjarni's

Re: [IceHorses] Mounting Block

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 05:15:06PM +, Mic Rushen wrote: No, not at all - they were perfectly happy to wait at the block for me to clamber aboard. Also, my dear Kalsi who was originally trained by Gudmar, never needs to be tied up (you just hang his rein over his ear) and will wander

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Sensation Stirrup Hanger

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 01:09:29PM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: Vicka, and I think Susan from nevada, mentioned that the stirrup hanger was causing white spots? I was wondering why they would do that, in what circumstances. If it was pressure, then seems would be white spots on the back?

Re: [IceHorses] Mounting Block

2008-03-26 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:50:47PM +, Mic Rushen wrote: On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:57:34 -0500, you wrote: how tall is kalsi? 14.1hh ah, even bigger than my big boy, then :) dunno then, maybe he associates the mounting block with the first stable i kept him at, where people mounted from the

Re: [IceHorses] Pace in Icelandic's

2008-03-25 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:25:30PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: On the same page with Stan's videos about saddle fit, http://www.hestakaup.com/content/view/59/97/ , he said something I'd never heard before: There is much to suggest that the t?lt was only discovered in Iceland by some priests

Re: [IceHorses] Gudmar

2008-03-25 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 08:34:09AM -0700, Ann Cassidy wrote: Actions ALWAYS speak louder (and more honestly) than words. I thought I should send the photo to be sure you all agree. I am not too scanner literate so you get the whole page. i am at work, on a machine not allowing graphics

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Bareback

2008-03-25 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 07:47:15AM -, Susan Coombes wrote: I have ridden Corrie a few times bareback. We did walk in a confined space then in a half acre paddock. Even with my osteopenia I didn't think it was a risk. I didn't even wear my body protector. We tried trot a few times but

Re: [IceHorses] treats

2008-03-25 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 04:26:54AM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote: Would it be OK to be consistently inconsistent? I had a trainer friend in the old days who used the consistantly inconsistant method because she said when they went to shows, she couldn't guarantee consistancy and they did

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Bits Icelanders Use - back around to saddle fit

2008-03-25 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 03:06:16AM -, Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones wrote: I did see it and had a good laugh over Janice's post because Karen's take is quite accurate. Nada. I don't want to over-promote the videos, but I was expecting much more of a reaction. A few people commented on

Re: [IceHorses] Dilemma

2008-03-25 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 06:28:51PM +, Mic Rushen wrote: What would you do if you visited someone you have known very well for many years, and found several horses so thin they are bordering on emaciated (even though the person has plenty of feed, and plenty of money), kept in an exposed

Re: [IceHorses] Surrender to the Saddle Tree

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 05:41:42PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i am constantly amazed at the lack of discussion of bareback riding here, given this as a sample fact. So start a thread on it. : ) i thought i recently had, by asking how many people judged their saddle fit by comparing

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
We started all our youngsters (all three of them) in bareback pads. It's a nice way to feel their reactions to things. cool! i have a bunch of nosy details i'm curious about :) . what sort of bareback pad did you use, and why that type? i have sat in one once (trying a horse, whom actually

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 08:33:52AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: i thought i recently had, by asking how many people judged their saddle fit by comparing it with bareback riding. but no replies i replied. that teev hates bareback. apparently not one of my more memorable posts :)

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
I don't ride bareback for several reasons. One, I'm 45 and my horses can't afford for me to get hurt, so yes, I need the security of a saddle. do you think it really keeps you from getting hurt? what sorts of situations happen to you where you feel like your saddle is keeping

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:12:49AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: i guess my question is... why would a horse have an aversion to bareback? Has to be a bad experience maybe? could certainly be! though definitely i would think that it would be something recoverable with work. i admit i

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:07:33AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: i replied. that teev hates bareback. apparently not one of my more memorable posts :) Apparently about as memorable to some people as all of the many video links Judy has sent in of her riding various horses bareback...as

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback

2008-03-23 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:44:16AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: what does the bareback pad add to the experience to make it worth it to you to use rather than just going actually bareback? A clean butt and possibly a little friction, depending on the material. *nod* i use riding pants for

Re: [IceHorses] Surrender to the Saddle Tree

2008-03-22 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 11:18:15AM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: Surrender to the Saddle Tree By Lisa Dawes Brown [...] The greatest light cavalries of the world, the Sarmations, the Tartars, the Huns, among others, swept down on whole civilizations on saddleless, bridleless horses, and

Re: [IceHorses] Bareback and Bridleless

2008-03-22 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 08:13:52PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: I love to ride bareback. It's close contact; you can get good communication with the horse. But it may not be for everyone. Once we get dependent on a saddle, it's hard to break away. i think maybe it would be good for us, the

Re: [IceHorses] Rhythm beads

2008-03-14 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:57:17AM -, Susan Coombes wrote: Does anyone here use rhythm beads on their gaited horses? http://www.equinewhispers.co.uk/aboutbeads.html They look pretty but do they do anything. When Corrie decides she can only do walk today I can persuade her to trot if I

Re: [IceHorses] not tolting

2008-03-14 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 06:32:05AM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: stjarni at least likes to stretch his neck down for trotting, and loosening the reins while you ask gives him permission and freedom to do so. Lorraine's horses sound like they are very strongly diagonal, so trot is easiest for

Re: [IceHorses] training with treats is so fun

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:37:09AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: I feel like gaited breed horses are smarter than non-gaited. but I also know my smartest horse is my most dangerous and my dumbest horse the sweetest. stjarni likes people, and i think is the most trustworthy horse at our barn

Re: [IceHorses] not tolting

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:06:46AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: On 3/13/08, Nancy Sturm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first thing to try, though, is to run in hand or pony the horse along side a horse that IS gaiting, on a hard surface or next to a wall so the gaiting horse's footfalls

Re: [IceHorses] not tolting

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 09:29:56AM -0500, Janice McDonald wrote: For most gaited horses, sitting deep in the saddle and putting your weight on the loins (or shifting the saddle back) will get the horse to get under itself and generally will cause it to gait, through pain Lynne! Not good

Re: [IceHorses] training with treats is so fun

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 07:08:01AM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote: You've obviously never owned a good Arab. :) Too funny. I ride in the land of the good Arab. They're not only smart, they're another breed of people pleasers. When I flew off Tali and broke my back, our grandson Gabe bought

Re: [IceHorses] icelandic trainers

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
oh, and this thread reminds me -- would video of ebba teaching me (once the weather doesn't suck) count as icelandic trainer work (cuz she's icelandic and my instructor) or not (because she's not a big name and does not give clinics or show)? --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] training with treats is so fun

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 01:43:41PM -0400, Karen Thomas wrote: *grin* i used to lease a good arab. she was plenty smart, but not, umm, very *sensible*, if you see the difference... My experience is that many/most Arabs reflect the personalities of their riders/handlers, probably more

Re: [IceHorses] icelandic trainers

2008-03-13 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:48:47AM -0500, Judy Ryder wrote: Thanks for your input and hope you can provide video for us to see some of their current work. this letter clarifies for me considerably what you will and not accept as evidence (formally speaking, your epistemology). thanks for that;

Re: [IceHorses] Keeping the Back Clean

2008-03-12 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 03:05:25PM -0500, Judy Ryder wrote: The excess hair can cause the saddle to move around which can cause rubbing and irritation in that area. Use your coat king and your shedding combs and get that area really clean. right on! i've also found using a cactus cloth gets

Re: [IceHorses] training with treats is so fun

2008-03-12 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 09:08:00PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have come to the conclusion that the Icelandic Horse is smarter than other horses I have owned and they were all types of breeds. Anyone out there think so too? i have to admit that i think so too. but i also think that

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gudmar Petursson Clinic

2008-03-11 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 02:06:57PM -0300, Virginia Tupper wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.gudmar.com. go to horses for sale. All I get are headings on all the pages of his site. No photos. i tested this in safari and firefox on osx, and it

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gudmar Petursson Clinic

2008-03-11 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 02:56:51PM -0500, Judy Ryder wrote: How about the one of Mani with the noseband and the pessoa (not nice). that's not gudmar on, that's some blond woman with airplane toes... --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Gait Vocabulary

2008-03-11 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 03:10:46PM -0500, Judy Ryder wrote: of course, if you say he is gaiting in my area, you could equally well be describing a horse at the walk or a gallop. Most of us gaited horse folks live in areas that are mostly non-gaited horses, so you're not alone. However,

[IceHorses] saddles vs spouses

2008-03-06 Thread pyramid
daniel and i have mostly separate financial lives, so i don't even ask him about saddle purchases. (i am hanging on to my sensation dressage for now b/c i think it fits him well, though.) but when i was having my taxes done i discovered that since people pay me for teaching, saddles i buy are

[IceHorses] what gaits vid?

2008-03-06 Thread pyramid
here is a video of stjarni tolting -- what would y'all call his gait(s)? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z02NrXCsTg8 (credit and cute commentary due to my friend and student rachie, who took the video and then took stjarni out for another trail ride :) --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Traffic Cones

2008-03-06 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 06, 2008 at 12:28:50PM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote: Can anyone tell me where to buy traffic cones? I'd like some for ground driving Yrsa around - a visual. if you have a home depot nearby, they apparently stock them. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Head Gear

2008-03-02 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Mar 01, 2008 at 10:31:02PM -0800, Lynn Kinsky wrote: It says the horse was trained by Gudmar, has a soft mouth, and beautiful head carriage but this type of head gear would not indicate that. speaking as someone who's been in gudmar's tack room, it's msotly filled with

Re: [IceHorses] Doing what is best

2008-03-02 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Mar 02, 2008 at 07:52:55AM -0800, susan cooper wrote: We all love our Iceys and we want to do what is best for them. So let us not get into a fight over tree vs. treeless. Every horse is an individual and every owner has different needs. I have treeless, but I also want a treed.

Re: [IceHorses] Thanks for the Coffee, Take my Horse!

2008-02-29 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:51:35AM -0500, Laree Shulman wrote: This is pretty common with race horses that don't make it to the big $. We have had 2 TB's that were off the track that were given away when they didn't make it to the big time. It's cheaper to give them away then keep them and

Re: [IceHorses] horse hides

2008-02-27 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 08:33:44AM -0800, Nancy Sturm wrote: I usually don't look at stuff like this, but I did. I think I am in denial. Are those really horse hides? Where's the tail? The hair seems too long. I hope. when my childhood pony died, my father wanted us to save the skin.

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Class

2008-02-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 06:14:14AM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: Ooo...Nancy...I like that idea. We should pick a day and each one of us should head out to our horses with a camera in hand. a friend and i went out to see stjarni yesterday, and she brought a camera, so i will have pix! (with

Re: [IceHorses] something a bit different

2008-02-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 07:46:30AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote: on the trail when i get relaxed and have been riding an hour or two and Teev is relaxed, I ride one handed. He neck reins but I dont neck rein him, I just steer with my feet and he is so totally good with that! He has learned

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Class

2008-02-26 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:58:48AM -0600, Janice McDonald wrote: it dont matter vicka cause me and teev and Nos are gonna whoop all your butts in the mobile home stairs championship cup. well, of course you are. that said, i expect stjarni and me to kick ass on the beach race and the

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Class

2008-02-25 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:05:18AM +, Mic Rushen wrote: We (ie judges) should all recognise trotty tolt (often foxtrot) for instance, but actually recogising a GOOD foxtrot is a whole other continuum. is it necessary to do this? would it be enough to evaluate the gaits for say apparent

Re: [IceHorses] SENSATION SADDLE

2008-02-24 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 02:47:48PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just received a sensation hybrid demo from Kaaren on Friday pm. I rode in it yesterday and for about 20 minutes today. I have a question about the breast collar. Can anyone send a picture of the sensation breast collar

Re: [IceHorses] Natural Class

2008-02-24 Thread pyramid
You need to write up a proposed showing class for naturally-presented horses. Or possibly two classes - I would suggest a Gait class (to show gait ie foxtrot, rack/tolt, running walk etc etc) and a Natural 4-Gait class (to show walk, trot, canter and gait as above). Thank you, Mic, for

Re: [IceHorses] Quadriplegic Endurance Rider

2008-02-20 Thread pyramid
accident and was injured in an ATV accident and was originally told she would never walk again or leave the bed. She is still considered quadriplegic. my goodness. she's clearly weak, but by what standard would she be considered still quadriplegic? she could clearly move at least two

Re: [IceHorses] Three Phase Event

2008-02-15 Thread pyramid
On Fri, Feb 15, 2008 at 08:44:24AM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: A three day (phase) event for gaitedhorses. Has dressage, stadium obstacle course and 30-50 min.cross county obstacle, endurance race. To be held April 19th and 20th at Kentucky Equestrian Center, Winchester, KY

Re: [IceHorses] Am I from Mars II?

2008-02-11 Thread pyramid
I think we could just as well go to no nosebands, raise the level of education of trainers, and not have any disputes about tightness of nosebands :-) i still think i'd like to put one on stjarni. it's a decoration, but it shows off the broken blaze aspect of his face markings (rather than

Re: [IceHorses] what gait? pic

2008-02-10 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 04:57:39PM +, Mic Rushen wrote: owned in the past, but I think one contributing factor to a horse having a nice jog is having a rather upright shoulder, although not all horses with upright shoulders seem to jog equally. I've always been taught - and experienced -

Re: [IceHorses] Skijoring

2008-02-10 Thread pyramid
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 06:21:32PM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: How about skijoring? seems like this might be better than ice tolts? it seems just like sleigh driving, with a minimalized sleigh and a rider. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] where is spring?

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
i am finally learning to actually go to the barn and *look* at the weather, rather than trying to rely on reports from ten miles away. (of course those of you lucky enough to live nearer your horses don't have this particular problem :) this afternoon: report says temps falling to around 30, west

[IceHorses] what gait? pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
it occurs to me that i found one (from last summer). (i still can't find my camera. more annoyingly, i discovered that the flip video i really wanted doesn't work with macos) so, what gait? --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] what gait? pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 05:32:49PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: Looks like a nice trot to me. to me too -- but if i remember correctly from the time, it was slow, and SO SMOOOTH and bounce-less i could hardly believe it when i saw the picture. (very unlike stjarni's usual trot, which is HUGE

Re: [IceHorses] what gait? pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 05:06:54PM -0600, Wanda Lauscher wrote: On 09/02/2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, what gait? --vicka Did you mean to attach a pic with that Vicka? i did, in a message shortly following. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] what gait? pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
I think if an Icelandic is given his head from the start and allowed to find his own balance during training, then all sorts of nice things can happen. *grin* if i ever get a camera again, or a video that works with my machine, i will try to get some pictures of stjarni's big trot. i ride

Re: [IceHorses] what gait? pic

2008-02-09 Thread pyramid
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 07:04:22PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What kind of saddle are you using that sure looks comfy. He is beautiful, wow. Sylvia thank you! :) that is a sensation dressage g3 saddle that i had on trial from kaaren jordan (kaaren please correct me if i am wrong?) it

Re: [IceHorses] Frappr IceHorses Map

2008-02-08 Thread pyramid
http://www.frappr.com/icehorses i tried, but failed :/ it appears not to be very mac-firefox-friendly -- i can't see most of the descriptions because they hide behind some panel of links, and i can't get the move this pin! pin to move. if anyone would like to add stjarni and me (north reading

Re: [IceHorses] Icelandic Horse Study

2008-02-07 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:04:10PM -0800, Judy Ryder wrote: Also, a problem with the study is that they only measured appendages (legs) and did not consider the spinal processes. let alone mental readiness for work and training. --vicka

Re: [IceHorses] Re: icelandic traditional hands off policy

2008-02-06 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:51:01AM -0500, Laree Shulman wrote: I am a person that uses try the moderate approach first in all things. I have always felt that the Miller imprinting methods were just a little too much for a brand new baby - it just never felt right to me but I also feel that

Re: [IceHorses] OT - Interesting statistics

2008-02-06 Thread pyramid
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:53:07AM -0500, Laree Shulman wrote: ? For every 100 women who earn a post-professional degree, 107 men earn a post-professional degree. source? and what kind of degree? women phd's in english are common. they also don't make much money off it. women phd's

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