Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-07-05 Thread Mic Rushen
On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 14:50:48 -0700, you wrote: Could we say that it works fine for predicting the amount of fat in the milk of dairy cow (or the amount of milk produced by dairy cows), and not the whole cow itself? Oh, absolutely, that was what I meant but didn't write! ; ) Mic Mic

Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-07-04 Thread Judy Ryder
BLUP, What Does It Mean? Is It a Valid Prediction Method? Works fine for dairy cattle - not for Icelandic horses. Could we say that it works fine for predicting the amount of fat in the milk of dairy cow (or the amount of milk produced by dairy cows), and not the whole cow itself? Judy

Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-07-04 Thread Karen Thomas
Works fine for dairy cattle - not for Icelandic horses. Could we say that it works fine for predicting the amount of fat in the milk of dairy cow (or the amount of milk produced by dairy cows), and not the whole cow itself? When I went on the snipe hunt to find out about BLUP, that's

Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-07-04 Thread Judy Ryder
It CAN be effective when it's used with huge quantities of data (as in millions of data points) when only ONE trait is to be monitored and improved. I remember particularly the examples of butterfat in cow's milk and protein content in soy beans. OK, that data has to be measurable

Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-07-04 Thread Karen Thomas
OK, that data has to be measurable UNsubjective data, right? The data would need to be 100% objective...AND, you'd have to be 100% sure that the trait (THE trait, not bunches of TRAITS) is inheritable. For instance, had we not worked with Hroi's upright pasterns and they hadn't settled

[IceHorses] BLUP

2008-06-30 Thread Judy Ryder
BLUP, What Does It Mean? Is It a Valid Prediction Method? http://iceryder.net/blup.html Judy

Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-06-30 Thread Karen Thomas
BLUP, What Does It Mean? Is It a Valid Prediction Method? http://iceryder.net/blup.html It's totally junk science as applied to Icelandic Horses. The simplest litmus test is this: if it had any validity at all, the TB racing industries would be using it. They aren't, so there ya go. I

Re: [IceHorses] BLUP

2008-06-30 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:18:52 -0400, you wrote: BLUP, What Does It Mean? Is It a Valid Prediction Method? Works fine for dairy cattle - not for Icelandic horses. Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen ---