Re: [IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion

2008-05-19 Thread Judy Ryder
>> We probably should go into ventroflexion, since it affects our > horses to a great extent. > We got into a discussion about training, how the hind end should be > more under the horse, riding, etc. I agree that the ventroflexion > issue should be explored Let's start with some of the informat

[IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion

2008-05-18 Thread Stan Hirson, Sarah Jones
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, "Judy Ryder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We probably should go into ventroflexion, since it affects our horses to a > great extent. > > What did George have to say? > I don't remember well enough to quote him accurately. In our small group was the dressage

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion / Dorsiflexion

2007-03-16 Thread pyramid
On Thu, Mar 15, 2007 at 05:10:09PM -0700, Judy Ryder wrote: > >> This is one of the reasons the tolt is not a collected gait. > > > > so what is the proper term to distinguish from a tolt where the horse is > > pulling himself along with the front end, vs pushing from behind? > > > In true tolt (

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion / Dorsiflexion

2007-03-15 Thread Judy Ryder
>> In tolt, the horse is ventroflexed. >> >> The base of his neck is lowered. >> >> This is one of the reasons the tolt is not a collected gait. > > so what is the proper term to distinguish from a tolt where the horse is > pulling himself along with the front end, vs pushing from behind? In tru

[IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion

2007-03-15 Thread twhjmm
--- In IceHorses@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > So - how would I teach him to round his back and rack? > > Nancy > he will not round his back and rack. He will lift his head and nose out to saddlerack and in true rack will lift his head and sorta stretch his body out long.

Re: [IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion / Dorsiflexion

2007-03-12 Thread pyramid
On Mon, Mar 12, 2007 at 06:26:41PM -, Judy Ryder wrote: > In tolt, the horse is ventroflexed. > > The base of his neck is lowered. > > This is one of the reasons the tolt is not a collected gait. so what is the proper term to distinguish from a tolt where the horse is pulling himself along

[IceHorses] Re: Ventroflexion / Dorsiflexion

2007-03-12 Thread Judy Ryder
> It is the opposite of ventroflexed. >Venter< is latin for stomach - so, > flexed toward the stomach. Sway back is (usually extreme) ventroflexion. In tolt, the horse is ventroflexed. The base of his neck is lowered. This is one of the reasons the tolt is not a collected gait. See this pict