RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-29 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I was going to mention that and I would call it postural ewe neck and I have certainly seen it with horses that have been really pulled on to gait. I also think there are conformational ewe necks which can be helped with correct building of muscles and good riding. They often go along with a s

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-29 Thread Judy Ryder
>>Can you mark up one or two of your horses with self-adhesive dots (or some >>type of masking / duct tape) so that we can see the curve of the neck >>bones? > > I will if I have time but sweet itch rugs have gone mad again at the > moment so I'm awfully busy. Thanks! It only takes a minute or

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-29 Thread Robyn Hood
Hi Janice, >>>what about the horses that are cranked up to force gait. Those are ewe necked and it isnt something they were born with I was going to mention that and I would call it postural ewe neck and I have certainly seen it with horses that have been really pulled on to gait. I also think t

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-29 Thread Janice McDonald
what about the horses that are cranked up to force gait. Those are ewe necked and it isnt something they were born with but something that developed over time. Does it have the dip also? Is it skeletal and muscular or just muscular?? Its very rare around here at a field trial to see a walking h

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-29 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Does a thin horse have a ewe neck? A ewe neck is more than a matter of nutrition, isn't it? I DO think there is a muscular element to ewe-necks, in that horses may be "developmentally ewe necked" or "conformationally ewe-necked" - or both. I think all horses will APPEAR ewe-necked if they

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-29 Thread Mic Rushen
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:24:43 -0700, you wrote: >Can you mark up one or two of your horses with self-adhesive dots (or some >type of masking / duct tape) so that we can see the curve of the neck bones? I will if I have time but sweet itch rugs have gone mad again at the moment so I'm awfully busy

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> Karen, can you also do Svertla? Ok, I went out and tried to mark it...but I think you're going to have to rent an x-ray machine for me. I'll look through the pictures now and see what I got. Karen Karen Thomas Wingate, NC No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edit

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Judy Ryder
> Brenna and her parents Erill and Gersemi have nice (not ewe at all) necks. Sue, can you mark the vertebrae on Brenna's neck so that we can see the S shape curve? Karen, can you also do Svertla? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Judy Ryder
Thanks for the input, Mic. >>What is "upside down"? > > A neck in which the skeletal conformation gives the appearance of > over-development of the brachiocephalic muscle (which may or may not > be combined with ACTUAL over-development of that muscle!) How do we tell the difference, whether it i

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Cherie Mascis
>Brenna and her parents Erill and Gersemi have nice (not ewe at all) necks. >Sue Brenna is a gorgeous horse and well-built and look..a calm eyed, relaxed horse in a sidepull!! Yeah! Cherie

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Karen Thomas
Usually by a slight dip in front of the withers. That lets you know it's a true skeletal ewe neck, as opposed to one caused through incorrect feeding or training. Just to add another complication, a "dropped crest" can have that appearance too, but is actually caused by a really heavy mane p

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Mic Rushen
>Does a thin horse have a ewe neck? It may appear to have one due to lack of flesh, but a true ewe neck is skeletal, not muscle or fat-based. > >Does a fat horse not have a ewe neck? A horse of any weight may have a ewe neck. > >What is "upside down"? A neck in which the skeletal conformation g

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Judy Ryder
>>What criteria are you using to determine a ewe neck? > > A neck which is rather thin, and which looks "upside down". Let's try to pinpoint the criteria so that we all can understand what a ewe neck is. Does a thin horse have a ewe neck? Does a fat horse not have a ewe neck? What is "upside

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread pyramid
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 08:35:22AM +0100, Mic Rushen wrote: > On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:20:00 -0700, you wrote: > > >What criteria are you using to determine a ewe neck? > > A neck which is rather thin, and which looks "upside down". my goodness. i don't know if stjarni's neck is "upside down", bu

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-28 Thread Mic Rushen
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 09:20:00 -0700, you wrote: >What criteria are you using to determine a ewe neck? A neck which is rather thin, and which looks "upside down". Mic Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- So

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-27 Thread Judy Ryder
Mic, What criteria are you using to determine a ewe neck? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-26 Thread Judy Ryder
> So ewe neck means hjartarháls in icelandic ;o) Or maybe aerhals? or kindhals? Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-26 Thread Gudrun Hrafnsdottir
Hi. So ewe neck means hjartarháls in icelandic ;o) Gudrun. http://skeggsstadir.blog.is

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-25 Thread Mic Rushen
>Not a conformation pic, but is this a ewe neck? > No, this is. Mic (Michelle) Rushen --- Solva Icelandic Horses and DeMeulenkamp Sweet Itch Rugs: www.solva-icelandics.co.uk

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-25 Thread Karen Thomas
>>> I was thinking more of a conformation-type picture, on the off-side of the mane, so that we can see the complexus versus the brachio muscle. Have at it. This is a girl with an attitude. This Scarlett O'Hara mare...well, frankly my dear, she doesn't give ...doggone...what anyone says about h

Re: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-25 Thread Judy Ryder
>>Does anyone have a picture of an Icelandic without a ewe neck? >> > Yes, lots. I was thinking more of a conformation-type picture, on the off-side of the mane, so that we can see the complexus versus the brachio muscle. Judy http://icehorses.net http://clickryder.com

RE: [IceHorses] Ewe Neck

2007-08-24 Thread Karen Thomas
The inverted (upside down) neck (bigger under muscle, and smaller upper neck muscle) is pretty much par for the course in Icelandic Horses. I'm not so sure that I would say that ewe necks are "par for the course" in the breed. I know there are plenty of them, but I can think of a good many