RE: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-12-26 Thread Karen Thomas
Up to 90% of racing and performance horses have ulcers: That was the big clue that I gave the vet who recommended that Tivar get treated for ulcers - that his bucking/pissiness had always gotten worse each time he went for training. He mentioned the high incidence as justification for

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-12-26 Thread Janice McDonald
Nothing is ever easy, is it? I wonder what it is in alfalfa that's good for ulcers - I'd certainly be hesitant to start a piggy, easy-keeping Icelandic on alfalfa without a darned good reason. Isn't alfalfa high in calcium - but so are Tums, right? Coincidence, or is the calcium the key?

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Laree Shulman
as stress can cause ulcers in the horse and also can be responsible for some bad behaviors. I'm confused, I know there's a lot of anecdotal evidence of this but I thought it has been proven that stomach ulcers are caused by a virus or bacteria - is the virus/bacteria stress induced? -- Laree

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Janice McDonald
On 2/6/07, Laree Shulman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: as stress can cause ulcers in the horse and also can be responsible for some bad behaviors. I'm confused, I know there's a lot of anecdotal evidence of this but I thought it has been proven that stomach ulcers are caused by a virus or

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Janice McDonald
a man in our area just had a horse put down that no one could find anything wrong with, not the vet, no one. He just got thinner and thinner and kept colicking and biting his sides. So the owner felt he suffered and had him put down. My farrier told me about it the other day and I asked if it

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Janice McDonald
or maybe they have the bacteria always there and it gets flared up by stress?? Janice-- yipie tie yie yo

RE: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Karen Thomas
I'm confused, I know there's a lot of anecdotal evidence of this but I thought it has been proven that stomach ulcers are caused by a virus or bacteria - is the virus/bacteria stress induced? In humans, yes, but in the horse research I've seen, there's a huge link to stress. I don't know which

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Laree Shulman
Any ideas would help for trying to figure this out. Wow, Renee, how frustrating! Unfortunately, I don't have any insights, but I wish you luck -- Laree

Re: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-06 Thread Janice McDonald
maintenance treatment for a month. Guess what, he is now colicing almost every other day. I have an appointment on Thursday to get re -scoped and check out more. Do you know where, within the stomach, the original ulcer is? I think the duodenal ulcers may be worse. i wonder if

RE: [IceHorses] Ulcers

2007-02-05 Thread Karen Thomas
So, if you have a young horse, send him out for training, and he comes back different, consider ulcers; at least rule them out, for the horse's long-term health. When I told the vets Tivar's story, and his back checked pretty much pain-free, they immediately suggested that we treat him for