jeezus! no need. i can take it as well as dish it. but thanks, i hear
you.
randy
Hi,
there are the http://www.openh323.org for open sources
on H323
for SIP you can check http://www.vovida.com who provide some
source for help programming Voip
http://www.tsufl.edu/williams/Projects/InternetPhone/TSCIS445.htm
http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~jain/refs/ref_voip.htm
htt
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:47 PM
> I do however think that, given the tendency of various providers
> these days to violate the internet protocol specifications and
> erode the ability of applications to ru
> -Original Message-
> From: Masataka Ohta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
>
> If IETF makes it clear that AOL is not an ISP, it will commercially
> motivate AOL to be an ISP.
Oh really - it is that simple!
Guess who is better known in masses - IETF or AOL :-).
Cheers,
--brijesh
Ennov
First of all let me tell you how much I am not only enjoying being the part
(if mainy listening part) of this list but also what a great learning
experience it is. (More than one way of course...)
Question: I am looking into implementing XML. For that I will have to look
into the browser compatib
> From: Keith Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...
> > Other than latency, message size, message rate, and the number of
> > participants, what is the difference between an AOL chat room and this
> > mailing list as exemplified by this thread?
>
> why, the participants, of course.
>
> once people move
I am trying to understand the application and advantages of multiple
protocols like SNMP, CORBA and XML. I will appreciate a lot if any one can
help me to understand which protocol to choose under what circumstances. I
am coming across few systems which supports all three interfaces. Can only
o
Brijesh Kumar wrote:
> As a technical person, you may not like their solution, but
> they appear to meet requirements of their target market.
Emphasis on "appear". The non-ISPs provide services that appear to be
Internet access, but aren't. The big problem is when new protocols come
along that
In addition, I am also interested in the differences bwteen SNMP and JMX.
Thanks.
Yixin Zhu
-Original Message-
From: Gayen, Sanjukta, CMDR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 10:49 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: SNMP, CORBA and XML
I am trying to understand
Lloyd Wood wrote:
> > users. This hurts developers, of course, because it limits our user
> > base; but it also hurts the non-ISPs' users (obviously) *and* all other
> > users (by Metcalfe's Law).
>
> ...but benefits the non-ISPs, who can charge for selectively
> introducing any new service (eve
> However, I've suddenly realized that the fault for some of the vacation
> messages rests with the people running this list. Notice that they
> are not including a "Precedence: bulk" or "Precedence: bulk" lines
> which tell at least some `vacation` programs to do the obvious.
nor should they.
>
> > if AOL subscribers cared about standards
> > compliance they would have left AOL long ago.
>
> You're wrong about that. Remember when AOL didn't have anything to do
> with the Internet? That the standards for some of the services that AOL
> sells are written a
I've recombined these because they have an important connection, the
notion that the pronouncements of ITU, ANSI, IEEE, ATM Forum, the WAP
consortium, and the IETF are somehow necessarily better than those of any
other arbitrary group of people.
> From: Keith Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Howev
The following articles describe an email reading software Big Bro is
apparently already using. I think this is more than appropriate to start a
discussion about.
While it can be a powerful tool in the right hands, my three concerns about
this are:
1. Privacy of course - just the same way
> Despite IETF snobbery, has decades of use. It has defects as
> a vacation program tamer, but those would be better fixed by coming up
> with a replacement than by ignoring the problem. IETF effort on that
> would be better spent than on some (but not all) of the newest SMTP
> elaborations.
> From: Doug Royer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...
> Could you please point me at the standards (or otherwise) documents
> that describe the semantics of 'Precedence:'? It sounds interesting
> but I just can't seem to find out what you mean or expect it to do.
`man vacation` on any modern BSD-like UN
> I've recombined these because they have an important connection, the
> notion that the pronouncements of ITU, ANSI, IEEE, ATM Forum, the WAP
> consortium, and the IETF are somehow necessarily better than those of any
> other arbitrary group of people.
none of these is an 'arbitrary' group of pe
Keith;
> p.s. I do however think that, given the tendency of various providers
> these days to violate the internet protocol specifications and
> erode the ability of applications to run on the network, the
> community might benefit from some kind of "standardized" (in the
> loose sense) descr
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> Subject: Re: HTML forms
>
> Need info. on programming voice over ip
If you mean with HTML forms, try:
http://www.bovik.org/devup
Imagine my shock when I learned microphone upload wasn't in MSIE 5.5.
Mozilla already has it, if you're willing to apply the pat
Keith;
> > If IETF makes it clear that AOL is not an ISP, it will commercially
> > motivate AOL to be an ISP.
>
> probably not. folks who subscribe to AOL aren't likely to be
> reading IETF documents.
AOL will be motivated but, considering other factors, may not
change the current practice.
> > ...
> > Something can be 'standard' and never used by anyone. Something can be
> > used by everyone and never a 'standard'.
>
> Perhaps according to the Church of De Jure Standards.
Well according to those in the IETF (This mailing list you keep
sending to). Did you expect the [EMAIL PROTECT
> From: Doug Royer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...
> I still seem to be missing your point. Is it that you wish to change the
> IETF to be more like the AOL chat rooms?
Exactly the opposite, assuming that my guess that AOL chat rooms (which
I've never seen directly) and modern netnews share some char
> I thought I was clear about proposing that the IESG or whomever add those
> nasty, evil, not entirely effective, sometimes harmful, anti-standard,
> profane, deprecated, left-coast Precedence: Bulk lines in the hope of
> reducing the plague of vacation noise.
Then write an internet draft and d
Can anyone tell me where I can get Current information about
Cryptography and US law? Thanks before hand. BLB
> It is akin to standardizing on what kind of light can come in your
> neighbourhood.
properly done, and with no adjectives or judgement spin, it could be a
taxonomy of what kinds of light are known. this might be useful, witness
a recent discussion re wap of what is being on the internet.
rand
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