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Not sure if it is relevant but i-mode is working on an end-to-end IP
system now which will be deploy sometime next year.
One of the original reason that i-mode didnt go pure IP is they couldnt
get enough IP address for it (they designed i-mode to handle 6M users
originally) and that is quite
James Seng wrote:
Not sure if it is relevant but i-mode is working on an end-to-end IP
system now which will be deploy sometime next year.
Really? I am in Tokyo and follow wireless developments, especially i-mode,
quite closely, and I've never heard of such a plan.
Can you elaborate?
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On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, James Seng wrote:
One of the original reason that i-mode didnt go pure IP is they couldnt
get enough IP address for it (they designed i-mode to handle 6M users
originally) and that is quite huge for APNIC.
IPv6 has been around for quite some time now, do you know what
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Soon we need to have the interplanetary ip address allocation methods
even for our planet (The work of Vinton cerf colleagues in NASA) for
so many devices popping up.
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In your previous mail you wrote:
One of the original reason that i-mode didnt go pure IP is they couldnt
get enough IP address for it (they designed i-mode to handle 6M users
originally) and that is quite huge for APNIC.
IPv6 has been around for quite some time now, do you
On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Barathy, RamaSubramaniam wrote:
Soon we need to have the interplanetary ip address allocation methods
even for our planet (The work of Vinton cerf colleagues in NASA) for
so many devices popping up.
This brings up some more problems I don't even want to start thinking
John;
Renfield Kuroda wrote:
James Seng wrote:
Not sure if it is relevant but i-mode is working on an end-to-end IP
system now which will be deploy sometime next year.
Really?
No.
The guy from NTT Docomo who spoke at Adelaide mentioned it. I don't remember
details, though.
Francis;
= according to a IPv6 Forum internal mail:
NTTDoCoMo confirmed that IPv6 will be used in their backbone
starting Jan 2001 in a panel session with Fujitsu and the IPv6 Forum
at WTC.
FYI, it's equally easy for docomo to use IPv4, IPv6, OSI or any other
protocol,
Nilsson;
I doubt that you will find support from IETF folks for something that
breaks the end-to-end model of IP (as Imode and WAP do as they are
implemented today). I want to be able to ssh to my phone (or
equivalent). Anything below that is just telephantisms.
I'm afraid that ssh for
At 12:20 PM +0100 8/10/00, Lloyd Wood wrote:
On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, James P. Salsman wrote:
... breaks the end-to-end model of IP (as Imode and WAP do as they are
implemented today).
WAP does, but apparently i-Mode does not.
No. it's the world's biggest NAT, and NAT *breaks the
Masataka Ohta wrote:
Nilsson;
I doubt that you will find support from IETF folks for something that
breaks the end-to-end model of IP (as Imode and WAP do as they are
implemented today). I want to be able to ssh to my phone (or
equivalent). Anything below that is just telephantisms.
Seriously,
As was pointed out recently, IPV6 will croak much sooner than it needs to
for the simple reason that we structure routing intelligence into the
address assignment.
Wouldn't it be better by far, to assign new addresses from 000...1, and map
to routing information however we may code
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"Corzine, Gordie" wrote:
Seriously,
As was pointed out recently, IPV6 will croak much sooner than it needs to
for the simple reason that we structure routing intelligence into the
address assignment.
This is some sort of urban legend. If a routeable prefix was given to
every human, using
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No. it's the world's biggest NAT, and NAT *breaks the end-to-end
model of IP*.
Well, there is a big difference between WAP's breaking the e2e model
and i-mode. WAP does an application gateway and uses no Internet
Using the IP address, you index into a table with 100 M entries, pick up an
index into the 75K entry routing table. You now have two tables that
require maintenance, that's all. If customer changes ISP, their entry in
the first table is changed. Link is down, the second table's mechanisms
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zine, Gordie" writes:
Using the IP address, you index into a table with 100 M entries, pick up an
index into the 75K entry routing table. You now have two tables that
require maintenance, that's all. If customer changes ISP, their entry in
the first table is
Brian Carpenter writes:
This is some sort of urban legend. If a routeable
prefix was given to every human, using a predicted
world population of 11 billion, we would
consume about 0.004% of the total IPv6 address
space.
Surely you recall the quotation attributed to Thomas J. Watson: "The
The problem is that we (as a profession) don't know
how to do that. We have to make routing scale, and
that demands aggregation, which in turn demands
structured addresses.
The telephone company figured out how to avoid problems decades ago. Why
the computer industry has to rediscover
*No one* knows how to do it any differently.
I have an idea: Let's merge IP addresses with telephone numbers. A person
will have one IP address for each telephone number he owns, and vice versa,
and the two numbers will be the same. Because the identifying number of a
telephone is open-ended
folks,
our current plan is NOT to try to extend a single address space
across the solar system. We plan to confine address spaces to
planets, satellites, space vehicles and the backbone Internet -
but each address space is independent. We plan to use something
akin to the domain name system for
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