Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service

2000-09-18 Thread Mohsen BANAN-Public
To: The Internet Technical Community > On Sat, 16 Sep 2000 17:44:56 -0700 (PDT), "James P. Salsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >said: James> (1) End-to-End Internet Services for Mobile Devices James> Scope: Specifications and interoperability guidelines for James> end-to-end mobile I

Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service

2000-09-18 Thread James P. Salsman
Patrik, Thank you for your reply: >>... guidelines for TCP operation during >> indefinite wireless link downtime > > I think this must be syncronized with the work of the PILC wg. See > http://www.ietf.org/html.charters/pilc-charter.html Yes, the next document milestone from PLIC seems to

The LEAP Manifesto -- Executive Summary

2000-09-18 Thread Mohsen BANAN
The Lightweight & Efficient Application Protocol (LEAP) Manifesto Shaping the Future of Mobile & Wireless Applications Industry A Call to Action EXECUTIVE SUMMARY Mohsen Ba

Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service

2000-09-18 Thread Graham Klyne
At 09:23 AM 9/16/00 -0700, Dave Crocker wrote: >At 08:12 AM 9/16/00 -0400, vint cerf wrote: >>would it be useful, in the context of establishing peer-to-peer >>communications >>(or even client/server communications) with limited-function mobile devices, >>to use SIP as a framework for negotiating

Multimedia EMSD? (was Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service)

2000-09-18 Thread James P. Salsman
Mohsen, Thank you for your message: > A large body of work exists which addresses the Mobile Messaging > area > > LEAP: Lightweight and Efficient Application Protocol. >... > Those who want to build good things and move forward fast, can evaluate > the merits of LEAP and participa

RE: Multimedia EMSD? (was Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service)

2000-09-18 Thread petri . koskelainen
Hi, We don't need yet-another mail delivery protocol by some new forum. We have already e.g. SIP which is capable of carrying MIME messages, including multipart and which supports capability negotiation. -- Petri > -Original Message- > From: EXT James P. Salsman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Multimedia EMSD? (was Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service)

2000-09-18 Thread Mohsen BANAN-Public
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 01:55:21 -0700 (PDT), "James P. Salsman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >said: >> Those who want to build good things and move forward fast, can evaluate >> the merits of LEAP and participate in its evolution and enhancement. >> >> The starting point URL is: http://www.l

Re: pilc minutes for IETF 48

2000-09-18 Thread James P. Salsman
Here are some questions about the plic minutes: http://pilc.grc.nasa.gov/pilc/list/archive/0967.html > TCP over Wireless draft. The working group charter specifies that > PILC will produce a 'TCP over Wireless' RFC that is a meta list of > the existing PILC recommendations. This was re

RE: Multimedia EMSD? (was Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service)

2000-09-18 Thread Mohsen BANAN-Public
> On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 12:04:10 +0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: petri> Hi, petri> We don't need yet-another mail delivery protocol by some new forum. petri> We have already e.g. SIP which is capable of carrying MIME messages, petri> including multipart petri> and which supports capab

Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service

2000-09-18 Thread hardie
> These documents would become de facto standards (although they won't > have had the standards-review) and they would break the paradigm > of Internet-Drafts (which is "don't implement"). May I respectfully resubmit "don't implement" as: "Please understand that any experience you gain implement

Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service

2000-09-18 Thread Eliot Lear
Mohsen BANAN-Public wrote: > Remember the web (http, ...)? > What was IETF's role in Internet's main modern application? You mean aside from MIME? -- Eliot Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Mobile Multimedia Messaging Service

2000-09-18 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mohsen; > James> (1) End-to-End Internet Services for Mobile Devices > > James> Scope: Specifications and interoperability guidelines for > James> end-to-end mobile IP connection and transport services required > James> for support of standard Internet messaging ... > > > The beauty

Re: pilc minutes for IETF 48

2000-09-18 Thread James P. Salsman
Reiner, Thanks for your reply: >>... There seems to be a lack of understanding about the >> parameters involved, and most if not all of the important ones are >> at least touched on in the DoCoMo I-D and the documents it cites. > > You need to be more precise. Which parameters are you talking a