Hi All,
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002, The IESG wrote:
> The IESG has received a request to consider CR-LDP Extensions for ASON
> as an Informational RFC.
> This has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF
> Working Group.
I have two comments about this draft.
The first is that the d
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:51:51 GMT, Lloyd Wood said:
> Simon Spero wrote:
> >
> > I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The
> > first use for any new communications technology is sex).
>
> any SUCCESSFUL communications technology, surely?
This must mean that 3G phones ar
On Mon, 13 Jan 2003, Scott W Brim wrote:
> I have a vague recollection that CU-SeeMe was used for porn in late
> 1993. We were so innocent, we thought people would use it for
> conferencing.
Speaking of technologies, has porn ever been multicast? Could have been a
killer application in those
At this moment, the Group/Convention Code that the Hilton San
Francisco has in its computer is "IET" rather than "IETF" as specified
on the IETF web page. I imagine that this may get fixed one way or
the other at some point.
-- Steve
On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 07:51, Lloyd Wood wrote:
Simon Spero wrote:
>
> I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The
> first use for any new communications technology is sex).
any SUCCESSFUL communications technology, surely?
Well before that, the French had t
I have a vague recollection that CU-SeeMe was used for porn in late
1993. We were so innocent, we thought people would use it for
conferencing.
> > An interesting subject for a thesis:
> >
> > The Porn and The Internet.
>
> Sub-titled The Beauties and The Beasts ?
Watch it. One fuzzball joke and I am outta here.
On 21:06 13/01/03, John C Klensin said:
--On Monday, 13 January, 2003 17:23 +0100 jfcm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear John,
> I am afraid that at this stage (e-mail + 40 or so years)
> telling someone to read the archives has no meaning. And
> telling him to post if he has a _new_idea either.
--On Monday, 13 January, 2003 20:51 + Bob Braden
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> *> > Could we not think of an FPS (frequently proposed
> solutions) *> > where each defeated "solutions" would be
> listed and quickly *> > discussed. There would be two good
> reasons:
> *> >
> *> > 1.
*> > Could we not think of an FPS (frequently proposed solutions)
*> > where each defeated "solutions" would be listed and quickly
*> > discussed. There would be two good reasons:
*> >
*> > 1. to provide a true list of what has been proposed. It would
*> > save time to all and provide
--On Monday, 13 January, 2003 17:23 +0100 jfcm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Dear John,
> I am afraid that at this stage (e-mail + 40 or so years)
> telling someone to read the archives has no meaning. And
> telling him to post if he has a _new_idea either.
You are entitled to your opinion. I was
Simon Spero wrote:
I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The
first use for any new communications technology is sex).
Not exactly a new phenomenon--the oldest statues known, going back over
20,000 years, are figures of nude women. Objecting to it is like
getting d
Hi Glenn,
Unfortunately we are unable to change the IETF dates at this time.
Marcia
At 06:54 PM 1/9/03 -0500, Glenn Parsons wrote:
Folks,
I just noticed that the November meeting date appears to have firmed up to
November 9-14.
http://ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt
This conflicts with the I
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
I just wonder: does anyone know/remember when the first Web porn site
came online?
I believe Kapor's law was first stated at the January '92 Usenix (The
first use for any new communications technology is sex).
Anyone remember the day when someone found a world-w
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In the first couple years of the web, adult sites financed it's
> development. In 1997 and 1998 90% of commerce on the web was adult
> related.
The first few years of the web were financed by government funded
research laboratories--initially CERN
I don't recall that any of the ID's from the Public Data Networks working group were
published as RFC's. There are references to the PDN drafts in old proceedings... back
when we included the list of current ID's in each issue!! I have a reference in a copy
of the FIfteenth IETF - Hawaii (Octo
Noel Chiappa wrote:
*> (e.g. RFC-1287, "Towards the Future Internet Architecture").
*>
*> In so doing, I was upset to see that the references included no mention of
*> the work of Carl-Herbert Rokitansky, whose "cluster addressing" scheme was
*> the first case I can recall of someone pr
Dear John,
I am afraid that at this stage (e-mail + 40 or so years) telling someone to
read the archives has no meaning. And telling him to post if he has a
_new_idea either.
Could we not think of an FPS (frequently proposed solutions) where each
defeated "solutions" would be listed and quickly
I was reading a paper by Paul Francis and Ramakrishna Gummadi, and a
reference caused me to re-read an interesting-sounding old paper they
referenced (RFC-1380, "IESG Deliberations on Routing and Addressing") to
refresh my memory of it, and further to read similar documents it referenced
(e.g. RFC-
This isn't true. We have been examining the issue, and have found clear
evidence that Bernstein's email has been censored and handled differently
from other email to namedroppers in recent months, and in the past, prior
to changes in the adminstration of namedroppers. We are not yet ready to
summa
Franck Martin wrote:
[..]
> An interesting subject for a thesis:
>
> The Porn and The Internet.
Sub-titled The Beauties and The Beasts ?
cheers,
gja
Thomas Narten wrote:
Namedroppers is a posters-only mailing list that is run in conformance
with the policies outlined in
http://www.ietf.cnri.reston.va.us/IESG/STATEMENTS/mail-submit-
policy.txt.
This states:
"""
4) Any held message that is later approved for distribution on the
mailing list
Hi Gerry,
Happy new year.
In terms of where the liaisons are, not sure. I checked the link as well, and couldn't
find any of the liaisons that was sent from ITU-T Q.14/15 to IETF CCAMP WG.
In terms of the intentions of the draft Recommendations G.7713.x series, these draft
Recommendations are
Folks,
I just noticed that the November meeting date appears to have firmed up to
November 9-14.
http://ietf.org/meetings/0mtg-sites.txt
This conflicts with the IEEE 802 plenary.
http://ieee802.org/meeting/future_meetings.html
I think there are many people who would like to attend both. Is ther
Title: RE: CORRECTION: Last Call: CR-LDP Extensions for ASON to Informant ional
Because the ITU cannot consent the draft without the code points.
The ITU knows exactly that the standard work on CR-LDP is discontinued. Steve may correct me if I am mistaken.
Regards;
Osama Aboul-Magd
ATI S
Title: RE: CORRECTION: Last Call: CR-LDP Extensions for ASON to Informational
Loa,
I've just sent a response to Adrian. ITU is scheduled to consent this draft at the end of the month. Therefore this draft is very urgent.
Regards;
Osama Aboul-Magd
ATI Strategic Standards and Protocols
Nort
Osama,
sorry our mails crossed each other on the wire. I see your
point, but doi not really understand why you need the actual
code points to reach consensus - as long as you know you will
get them?
But, I will not try to stop publishing the draft - as long as the
note on cr-ldp not scheduled for
--On Tuesday, 07 January, 2003 13:33 -0500 Doug
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Doug has rediscovered the idea of closing open mail relays to
> prevent
>> unauthorised use by outsiders sending to outsiders. This was
>> a big thing in the early 90s when email became popular.
>
> This may seem to be
Title: RE: CORRECTION: Last Call: CR-LDP Extensions for ASON to Informational
Hi Adrian,
The ITU is scheduled to consent G.7713.3 by the end of the month. In order for this to happen we need the IANA code points, and this is the only purpose of this draft.
I hope now you see the urgency of
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Why the creation of the first porn site is a
>depressing moment I'm not sure.
A few years ago I found myself wondering why most commercial websites
are so garish, flashy, fragmented, and awkward to navigate. I came to
the conclusion that they'd all taken their stylistic
Why are pornsites depressing? Adults have a choice as to whether on not they
want to visit these sites, the only bad thing is that if you enter your
email address, you'll be hit by spam like never before.
By June and July of 1994 people were trying
adult http sites. I'm afraid it's not clear how long
before this these sites actually existed.
I can tell you that there were very few adult sites
in 1994. By 1996 the formula and format for such
sites was pretty well fixed and that same formula
and
just to be clear - I was thinking of porn sites using the HTTP protocol for
access.
Best so far: Paul Hoffman thinks that the first one was called "Adult
Action", and probably predated the official Mosaic release. But that search
term is too general for the Internet of today (8240 hits sigh
At 17:03 12/01/03, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
Despite having lived through much recent history, I've forgotten a lot of
it
I just wonder: does anyone know/remember when the first Web porn site came
online?
Wondering whether it was before or after the first official release of
Mosaic
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