rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Julian Reschke
Hi, I'd like to see the concept of an RFC "updating" another RFC clarified. Currently the draft says: Updates Specifies an earlier document whose contents are modified or augmented by the new document. The new document cannot be used alone, it can o

Re: Propose some information retrieval protocols for Internet

2004-01-02 Thread wang liang
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Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:14:54 +0100, Julian Reschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > The second statement seems to be misleading. For instance, RFC2396 (URI > syntax) updates previous RFCs that also contained specific URI scheme > descriptions (such as "ftp"). Thus, it doesn't obsolete them. However,

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Julian Reschke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:14:54 +0100, Julian Reschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: The second statement seems to be misleading. For instance, RFC2396 (URI syntax) updates previous RFCs that also contained specific URI scheme descriptions (such as "ftp"). Thus, it doesn't ob

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:38:34 +0100, Julian Reschke said: > Not at all. IMHO the situation is as follows: RFC2396 completely > replaces all previous definitions of URI syntax and resolution > (including the syntax for relative URI references). > > However, previous documents *also* contained def

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Bob Braden
Julian, Hi. I believe that the problem your pointing out is real, common, and not so easy to solve. First, you might regard the given definition of Updates as a "best-effort" definition, with all that "best-effort" implies. ;-) I am sure that serious suggestions on a more precise definition w

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Julian Reschke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK.. I'm obviously caffeine-deficient today. ;) I see what you mean now, I had it 100% backwards. ;) And yes, there's a buglet in the wording, but I'm not sure how to fix it for what is probably a special case. I'm pretty sure that it's relatively rare for an updating RF

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Julian Reschke
Bob Braden wrote: Julian, Hi. I believe that the problem your pointing out is real, common, and not so easy to solve. First, you might regard the given definition of Updates as a "best-effort" definition, with all that "best-effort" implies. ;-) I am sure that serious suggestions on a more pre

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 20:43:23 +0100, Julian Reschke said: > Well, I was asking because we (the WebDAV working group) are just now > discussing a similar issue. We've got a new spec (the BIND protocol) > which updates parts of RFC2518 and RFC3253, and thus we'd like the RFC > Index to have "forwa

Re: rfc2223bis draft 07, "updates" clarification

2004-01-02 Thread Julian Reschke
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 20:43:23 +0100, Julian Reschke said: Well, I was asking because we (the WebDAV working group) are just now discussing a similar issue. We've got a new spec (the BIND protocol) which updates parts of RFC2518 and RFC3253, and thus we'd like the RFC I

Call for Nominations: IETF-Nominated ISOC Trustee

2004-01-02 Thread Geoff Huston
[A copy will be posted on the ietf-announce list sometime soon.] The Internet Society (ISOC) provides organizational and financial support for the IETF. As part of the arrangements between ISOC and the IETF, the IETF is called upon to name 3 Trustees to its Board (BoT), with staggered 3 year terms