Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Pekka Savola
Hi, The registration says the hotel is already full. Is this for real -- 900 rooms already taken, within 11 hours?? (Or is the reservation system just broken like in many other times..) On Mon, 17 May 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 60th IETF Meeting August 1-6, 2004 San Diego, CA

AW: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Hans Peter Dittler
Hi, The registration says the hotel is already full. Is this for real -- 900 rooms already taken, within 11 hours?? no - there are rooms of all three kinds available if you call the reservation-desk directly. (Phone: 1-619-291-2900 or 1-877-734-2726) I just got my confirmation mail back from

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dean Anderson) writes: ... For the less technical, an exchange point is ... I don't think there's anyone on this list less technical than you, Dean. -- Paul Vixie ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Iljitsch van Beijnum) writes: Unicast: A, E, H, L Anycast: B, C, D, F, G, I, J, K, M (now or planned) The thing that worries me is that apparently, there is no policy about this whatsoever, the root operators each get to decide what they want to do. The table is

Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Dimitri . Papadimitriou
hi, i've the same problem (from last night around 12:00PM GMT+1), and if you click on the book now link just below the picture, it says: We're Sorry But your chosen hotel cannot currently be reserved online. However, you can still book a room at this hotel by calling 888-625-5144 in the

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 02:16, Paul Vixie wrote: SNIP If you'd like to unify something, perhaps it could be DNS client behaviour and network-owner recursive caching forwarder design. And while you're at it, please outlaw those fiendish DNS-based load balancers. f-root should still be a

Re: ftp license

2004-05-18 Thread Bill Fenner
I forwarded this info to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and it was fixed (a license got installed) within 24 hours. Bill ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Joe Baptista
On 18 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: If you'd like to unify something, perhaps it could be DNS client behaviour and network-owner recursive caching forwarder design. And while you're at it, please outlaw those fiendish DNS-based load balancers. f-root should still be a 486DX2-66 like it was

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 18:55, Joe Baptista wrote: On 18 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: If you'd like to unify something, perhaps it could be DNS client behaviour and network-owner recursive caching forwarder design. And while you're at it, please outlaw those fiendish DNS-based load

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread jfcm
Dear Paul, pardon me for the previous response. I could not resist! This post of yours is a very important one as it expresses, from experience and in IETF wording, what I try to convey from another origin, experience, modelization, architectural logic and culture. At 02:16 18/05/04, Paul Vixie

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-18 Thread jfcm
At 01:35 18/05/04, Paul Vixie wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dean Anderson) writes: ... For the less technical, an exchange point is ... I don't think there's anyone on this list less technical than you, Dean. Thank you :-) jfc ___ Ietf mailing list [EMAIL

Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
I think is unacceptably TODAY, specially for IETF, that we should use a phone instead of on-line or email confirmation. We should not accept hotels that don't make usage of technology to arrange our meetings. We aren't asking the hotel (today) to support IPv6, but at least just IPv4 !

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Måns Nilsson
--On Tuesday, May 18, 2004 18:01:05 +0200 jfcm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. first target: distribution of the root machines through a root server matrix and core network - Yes, this is already done. It works, even if it is not top-guided as you envision. containing local root information to

Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Leif Johansson
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: I think is unacceptably TODAY, specially for IETF, that we should use a phone instead of on-line or email confirmation. We should not accept hotels that don't make usage of technology to arrange our meetings. We aren't asking the hotel (today) to support IPv6, but at

Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Tim Chown
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 09:39:13PM +0200, Leif Johansson wrote: Big hotels that are cheap and where the staff won't throw a fit when we all turn up in force, laptops, duct-tape and all, don't exactly grow on trees you know! I'm happy if it has a bar. :) All we need is 802.11beer, beer over

RE: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Glen Zorn
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think is unacceptably TODAY, specially for IETF, that we should use a phone instead of on-line or email confirmation. We should not accept hotels that don't make usage of technology to arrange our meetings. Are you expecting,

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 18-mei-04, at 3:08, Bill Manning wrote: None (to my knowledge) of the roots have a consistant view of a shared anycast vision, so you should not read too much into the summaries found in the RSSAC notes. Which is exactly the problem. % It seems to me that any design that

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 18-mei-04, at 2:16, Paul Vixie wrote: Unicast: A, E, H, L Anycast: B, C, D, F, G, I, J, K, M (now or planned) The thing that worries me is that apparently, there is no policy about this whatsoever, the root operators each get to decide what they want to do. The table is round. Policies are

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-18 Thread Dean Anderson
Sigh. Harald, Please add __Another__ complaint to the chair about inappropriate behavior by Mr. Vixie. Oh wait, could it be that lying to the general public saying our address space is hijacked is a personal attack? Hmm. Maybe they aren't as 'perfessional' as they made out to be. Maybe these

Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Melinda Shore
On Tuesday, May 18, 2004, at 05:56 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: We should also remember that the people don't comes just from US. When I called they (not very kindly) suggested me if I can call back in 6 hours (!) because registration services doesn't work so early. Incredible, this is

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Dean Anderson
On 18 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: The result is a service which has never been down hard, not ever, not for any millisecond out of the last 15 years. This is strength by diversity. This isn't quite true. There have been multiple server failures. And if I recall, I think that there have been

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Dean Anderson
On 18 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: Careful design by whom? Organic compared to what? I assure you that f-root has grown by careful design. It's only organic in that we go where we're invited rather than having a gigantic budget that could be used as a leash. Do you mean Careful Design like

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RE: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-18 Thread Michael Thomas
Glen Zorn writes: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think is unacceptably TODAY, specially for IETF, that we should use a phone instead of on-line or email confirmation. We should not accept hotels that don't make usage of technology to arrange our

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread jfcm
Dear Måns, your points would be well taken if we were talking of the same thing (you will note that I was very carefull quoting ICP-3). When was the last time IETF discussed the way to respond ICANN's ICP-3 call? (what I am try doing). There is a resulting difference of perspective. - I talk

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread Joe Baptista
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Dean Anderson wrote: On 18 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: The result is a service which has never been down hard, not ever, not for any millisecond out of the last 15 years. This is strength by diversity. This isn't quite true. There have been multiple server failures.

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-18 Thread grenville armitage
On Tue, 18 May 2004, Dean Anderson wrote: On 18 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote: The result is a service which has never been down hard, not ever, not for any millisecond out of the last 15 years. This is strength by diversity. This isn't quite true. There have been multiple server

Re: [dnsop] Re: Complaint on abuse of DNSOP lists

2004-05-18 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Mr. Anderson, I note that your use of the terms infantile, irresponsible and immature are personal attacks. These are inappropriate for the IETF list. If you have serious complaints to make that you feel require you to use these terms, send them to me privately. If you want to send mail to the

Response to complaint from Dean Anderson

2004-05-18 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
After re-checking with legal counsel, I repeat what I said before, trying to be as clear as possible: Bouncing a message to the sender is NOT public defamation. Therefore, your complaint about defamation has no merit. Dean, I believe that: - your complaint about the apparently incorrect