Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi Gordon, I guess the interpretation of the law is unclear, but facts count. In Spain several sites had been closed/modified because they publish data, and they needed to pay very high penalizations (many million of Euros) because that. Also I see more and more conferences not presenting this

Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread Tim Chown
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 10:24:14AM +1000, grenville armitage wrote: If your threat model postulates someone knowing enough about you to check for your IETF registration, then simply knowing when IETF meetings occur gives them a pretty good start. Testing your email account for 'out of office'

Re: 60th IETF - Registration

2004-05-22 Thread Dave Crocker
Leif, LJ Big hotels that are cheap and where the staff won't throw a fit LJ when we all turn up in force, laptops, duct-tape and all, don't LJ exactly grow on trees you know! I'm happy if it has a bar. that must be why we are going to one that costs US$ 179/night, with no secondary

Re: Root Anycast

2004-05-22 Thread Paul Vixie
y'know... if the people who have told me how glad they are that i've taken certain loons and whackos to task here recently would cc the ietf@ list as often as the people who have told me to stop feeding the trolls or the other people who have told me that i lack manners...

Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 21 May, 2004 15:55 +0100 Tim Chown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 12:05:00AM +1000, grenville armitage wrote: This could be solved by the IETF insisting that consent is required before attendance. I, like John, do not believe it is acceptable for the IETF meetings

Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread Spencer Dawkins
Dear Harald, From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:08 AM Subject: Re: respect privacy please ! I don't think a legal requirement for our process can jump over the laws. Is like if we decide that we need to sacrifice one of us in every

Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread John C Klensin
Spencer, I may be just misunderstanding your sense of humor, but it seems to me that any sort of formal experimental process is too heavyweight for this, or at least the core issue. It seems to me that what we have is... * Jordi noticed a problem and pointed it out. *

Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On 22. mai 2004 10:31 -0400 John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spencer, I may be just misunderstanding your sense of humor, but it seems to me that any sort of formal experimental process is too heavyweight for this, or at least the core issue. It seems to me that what we have is...

Re: IPv6 for *.ietf.org services (Was: Re: respect privacy please !)

2004-05-22 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 21-mei-04, at 19:00, Pekka Savola wrote: All the services IETF servers offer are purely client-server based. There is no significant technical advantage that I could see in making them IPv6-enabled, because all such services are very usable with IPv4. On the other hand, doing so would just

Re: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread grenville armitage
Tim Chown wrote: [..] But there's no reason the list should be published in advance. Clearly that's a matter of opinion. My sole observation is that the threat model postulated for yanking the pre-meeting publication seem insufficiently analysed. cheers, gja

RE: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread Christian Huitema
Tim Chown wrote: [..] But there's no reason the list should be published in advance. Well, actually there is a reason. Suppose that a particular company decides to stuff the room and send a large number of participant to the meeting. There is a big difference between making the behavior

RE: respect privacy please !

2004-05-22 Thread Michel Py
grenville armitage wrote: My sole observation is that the threat model postulated for yanking the pre-meeting publication seem insufficiently analysed. Besides, yanking it would be useless. If one wants to know if Joe Sixpack is going to attend the meeting a week in advance, here are a few

Out of Office AutoReply: Possible SPAM Re: Your website

2004-05-22 Thread Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Title: Out of Office AutoReply: Possible SPAM Re: Your website I am at the IEEE meeting and may not be able to read and reply to your message until May 23rd. If you need to contact me directly, please call +972-50-692-8065. Regards, Dan