On 27-mei-04, at 20:51, Vernon Schryver wrote:
The vast majority of the spam that sender validating systems might
block after they have been installed in most SMTP clients 5 or 10 years
from now is rejected today at any organization that really cares about
spam using any of various tactics includin
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "The people who claim that something can't be done shouldn't get in the
> > way of the people doing it."
>
> I didn't say it *cant* be done. I said there were known problems that any
> successful solution would have to address.
Another response is to point out that
On Thu, 27 May 2004 18:23:17 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:
> There is also the possibility of blacklisting known bad credentials.
Anybody who's had to get themselves out of 3,000 private blacklists, and
anybody who's had to fight with places that were blackholing the 69/8 address
space, knows
Hello Paul ,
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
> > > In fact, there isn't any sane way to detect "inconsistent" header
> > > information without external hints - this is the reason why there's the
> > > SPF proposal, the Yahoo domain-keys proposal, and Microsoft's proposal.
> > And MA
On 27-mei-04, at 16:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
the proposals aren't even a workable solution to
the real problem (I've yet to see a proposal that works if the
spammers start
utilizing zombie machines that snarf the already-stored credentials of
the user
to send mail)
It amazes me how many p
On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:00:00 MDT, Vernon Schryver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I don't see any of those proposals and their competitors as sane.
Oh, I wasn't addressing whether the proposals were workable, merely listing
proposals motivated by the fact that verifying the legitimacy of a sending
ma
> > In fact, there isn't any sane way to detect "inconsistent" header
> > information without external hints - this is the reason why there's the
> > SPF proposal, the Yahoo domain-keys proposal, and Microsoft's proposal.
>
> And MARID.
and don't forget http://sa.vix.com/~vixie/mailfrom.txt";>MAI
