I am interested in learning about any production sites using RSVP-TE as well.
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From: Bob Natale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 3:00 PM
To: Fleischman, Eric; Dean Anderson
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Subject: Re: Question about use of RSVP in Producti
Pekka,
>
> I really really hope that there has been a problem statement...
>
Here is an old draft on RSVP issues:
http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~pingpan/papers/draft-pan-nsis-rsvp-transpor
t-01.txt
> Further point where you can use path-coupled signalling, you mean?
> Not really, as there se
Eric A. Hall wrote:
> Do you have a specific URL to a specific man page that you think would be
> appropriate and authoritative?
>
> I spent a while looking (see also http://makeashorterlink.com/?X61D16909
> for example), and couldn't find anything that seemed to be authoritative
> enough to refe
> From: "Eric A. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Tony Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > The information about the mbox format being anecdotally defined is
> > incorrect. The mbox format has traditionally been documented in the
> > binmail(1) or mail.local(8) man pages (BSD UNIX derivatives) or mail
Pekka
While it is clear your distaste for RSVP, you haven't stated anything other
than handwave why RSVP is so bad ("in the first place"). You mention there
were mistakes and a BB will fix them, but you don't list a set of mistakes
RSVP made for folks to digest. I don't know if you think they ar
On 8/12/2004 5:18 PM, Tony Hansen wrote:
> The information about the mbox format being anecdotally defined is
> incorrect. The mbox format has traditionally been documented in the
> binmail(1) or mail.local(8) man pages (BSD UNIX derivatives) or mail(1)
> man page (UNIX System 3/5/III/V deriva
Inline..
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, David R Oran wrote:
> > I question the usefulness of path-coupled signalling beyond a certain
> > point in the network. Dean Anderson voiced them pretty well in the
> > original thread about RSVP -- it just doesn't seem to make any sense
> > beyond a very closed envi
The information about the mbox format being anecdotally defined is
incorrect. The mbox format has traditionally been documented in the
binmail(1) or mail.local(8) man pages (BSD UNIX derivatives) or mail(1)
man page (UNIX System 3/5/III/V derivatives). There have been several
variants of the mb
Inline,
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, Bob Braden wrote:
> *> As for the alternatives:
> *> 1) for first-hop only, there's really little need for a router alert,
> *> any protocol would do, as you already know who your routers are :-)
> *> 2) for hops beyond the first-hop router, I'd consider set
Michael Richardson wrote:
> ...
> I recall Orlando had no convenient bar.
>
Maybe you spent too much time there to recall ... ;)
As the hosts of Orlando, Glen & I can assure you the hotel bar was within
stumbling distance (Ethernet cable limits) of both the meeting and guest
rooms because one
*> As for the alternatives:
*> 1) for first-hop only, there's really little need for a router alert,
*> any protocol would do, as you already know who your routers are :-)
*> 2) for hops beyond the first-hop router, I'd consider setting up a
*> single server which would be responsible
On Thursday, August 12, 2004, at 10:49 AM, David R Oran wrote:
What about discovery of the furthest point. Do you not find that a
persuasive use case?
There are actually a number of instances in which some kind of topology
exposure is necessary for some widely-used functions to work properly.
Cert
I question the usefulness of path-coupled signalling beyond a certain
point in the network. Dean Anderson voiced them pretty well in the
original thread about RSVP -- it just doesn't seem to make any sense
beyond a very closed environment (like the first hop) -- and in that
case, you should be abl
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004, John Loughney wrote:
> If we scheduled the March meeting in New Orleans or Rio, maybe things would get
> interesting!
New Orleans sounds like a plausable option...
>
> John
>
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Thanks for the responses so far. Trying to answer in general...
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Martin Stiemerling wrote:
[Pekka:]
> | I'd be interested about this as well, but also in more general.
> |
> | I'd be in favor of deprecating the IP router alert option completely.
> | Effectively this affects RS
The IESG wrote:
>
> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider
> the
> following document:
>
> - 'The APPLICATION/MBOX Media-Type '
> as a Proposed Standard
>
> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits
> final comments on this action
On Aug 11, 2004, at 7:58 AM, Pekka Savola wrote:
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004, Fleischman, Eric wrote:
I am aware of some use of RSVP in labs but I am not aware of any use
of RSVP in production networks (i.e., real life networks people
connect to the Internet with). Simultaneously, I am encountering
I-Ds an
If we scheduled the March meeting in New Orleans or Rio, maybe things would get
interesting!
John
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