Just test, please ignore

2004-09-17 Thread Benny Nasution
Just test, please ignore Benny B. Nasution School of Network Computing Information Technology Faculty Monash University A U S T R A L I A +61 401 230 818 +61 397 696 078 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)

2004-09-17 Thread Tim Chown
On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 04:33:33PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: We know that booking early saves money, and we know that locations fill up early. (Me, I like Minneapolis just fine. I do wish to have fewer meetings in the US) Minneapolis is indeed fine, once you discover the tunnels...

Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)

2004-09-17 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004, Tim Chown wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2004 at 04:33:33PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: We know that booking early saves money, and we know that locations fill up early. (Me, I like Minneapolis just fine. I do wish to have fewer meetings in the US) Minneapolis is

Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)

2004-09-17 Thread Hadmut Danisch
On Fri, Sep 17, 2004 at 09:23:40AM +0100, Tim Chown wrote: With the impending visa/biometrics/etc mess for the US, having more of the IETFs elsewhere would reduce the travel burden. Maybe Canada? I'd really appreciate that. AFAIK the US require taking fingerprints even from europeans

Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)

2004-09-17 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
On Friday, 17 Sep 2004, Hadmut Danisch wrote: AFAIK the US require taking fingerprints even from europeans starting at Oct 1. So IETF60 was the last IETF I could attend without having my fingerprints taken. I feel everything but comfortable with that way to treat people. I agree. I

Re: IETF 62 (was: Re: first steps)

2004-09-17 Thread Dick St.Peters
Henrik Levkowetz writes: I have no illusions about the fingerprints taken when I come to IETF61 not finding their way into the US fingerprint data bases which now, I believe, mostly hold fingerprints of criminals and people who have been arrested and booked. Bah. Not that I want to defend

Internet-Draft Submission Cutoff Dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA

2004-09-17 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 61st IETF Meeting in Washington, DC, USA: October 18: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (-00) must be submitted by Monday, October 18 at 9:00 AM ET. As always, all initial

WG Review: Behavior Engineering for Hindrance Avoidance (behave)

2004-09-17 Thread The IESG
A new IETF working group has been proposed in the Transport Area. The IESG has not made any determination as yet. The following description was submitted, and is provided for informational purposes only. Please send your comments to the IESG mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) by September 24.