John,
--On søndag, oktober 03, 2004 15:11:24 -0400 John C Klensin
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The
IAB and IESG continue to appoint secret (i.e., not
announced and minuted) committees to hold secret (i.e.,
not announced in advance to the community) meetings,
Dear John,
your last two mails do not point out all the problems (I am quite
interested in Dave's remark on IANA), but they give a good account of a
pure technical (management) problem. Internet is defined as the adherence
of its users to the documents resulting from the Internet standard
--On 1. oktober 2004 13:48 +0200 JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I apologize for not having followed the debate over the IETF
administrative structure as I should have probable done it .
Dave's response seems to be the first I find interesting and
illuminating (may be I lost
And If the [Ll]eadership of this organization screws up badly
enough, the Internet Community *WILL* route around the damage. It's
happened before. That's how W3C came to be.
Eliot
Erk!
I haven't been involved with W3C since 2000, but I WAS involved in W3C
during the late 1990s. It's worth
Spencer Dawkins wrote:
Erk!
I haven't been involved with W3C since 2000, but I WAS involved in W3C
during the late 1990s. It's worth pointing out that the alternate
routing mechanism _did_ include a king - at that time, Tim was doing
final endorsement for all recommendations, and it looks like
On 12:59 04/10/2004, Harald Tveit Alvestrand said:
--On 1. oktober 2004 13:48 +0200 JFC (Jefsey) Morfin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I apologize for not having followed the debate over the IETF
administrative structure as I should have probable done it .
Dave's response seems to be the first I find
Now that bis is close to reality, I would like to push the final
version of CRAM out as well. The two documents should be able to go
through together, (I hope) making life easier for the RFC editor.
I have some non-substantive editorial changes that will make the
document a bit easier to
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I have been trying to be mostly in listening mode, but I'd like to
provide my personal perspective on the process issues.
1/ Openness of process
I don't mind having my mistakes pointed out, but I rather fear
I'm being accused of not having lived up to a promise I didn't
make. Here's what I
--On Monday, 04 October, 2004 18:33 +0200 Eliot Lear
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You know, Spencer. We *had* a king for a VERY long time, and
it was Jon Postel as RFC Editor and IANA. And somehow we
survived. While Jon was around somehow a vast plethora of
standards got vetted, not the
John,
In this context, my precise objection to what is going on now
rests on a comparison with that style of leadership. Jon's
style involved persuasion, logic, facts, and trying to
understand the point of view of those with whom he disagreed.
Like you, I disagreed with some of his
However, I don't see delay
at this point in time assisting our cause. In fact, the
general membership of the IETF (whatever that means) has very
few lawyers, and probably very few MBAs. One would have to
wait a LONG time for community consensus.
1. Nothing about the reorganization
Dave Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
1. Nothing about the reorganization is going to make IETF
standards be more useful or be produced significantly more
quickly. Hence, reorganization has nothing to do with the really
serious threats to IETF long-term survival.
Indeed it does not. I've been
Is there situation that multiple root servers installed behine
multiple routers within one AS?
yes. that situation exists inside cogent, with c-root.
If router-P enables PPLB, would there be some problem with TCP based
DNS requests?
your diagram didn't make sense to me so i'll answer
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