happy holidays

2004-12-26 Thread Marcus Wentrcek
I just wanted to write a quick note to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Joyous New Year. I hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season and that this note finds everyone in good health and spirits. May the New Year bring you happiness and well being. Regards, Marcus Wentrcek Ntegrated

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, & 7 - Miscellaneous & editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2004-12-26 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 05:36 27/12/2004, John C Klensin wrote: --On Monday, 27 December, 2004 03:00 +0100 "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At last ... This is why the ISOC scheme cannot work. One > cannot serve two masters. This rises the question of who has > the lead over the Internet R&D (a part f

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, & 7 - Miscellaneous & editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2004-12-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 27 December, 2004 03:00 +0100 "JFC (Jefsey) Morfin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At last ... This is why the ISOC scheme cannot work. One > cannot serve two masters. This rises the question of who has > the lead over the Internet R&D (a part from the users). No, Jefsey, as is often

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, & 7 - Miscellaneous & editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2004-12-26 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At last ... This is why the ISOC scheme cannot work. One cannot serve two masters. This rises the question of who has the lead over the Internet R&D (a part from the users). 1. may be it is the time to remember the IRTF and its Chair: this would transform a praxis into a triumvirate. 2. rather t

Re: Consensus? #718 Transparency - reports on decisions

2004-12-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Brian" == Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> According to Merriam-Webster online: Main Entry: 2 minute Brian> Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): min?ut?ed; Brian> min?ut?ing : to make notes or a brief summary of Brian> Brian Brian> Sam H

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, & 7 - Miscellaneous & editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2004-12-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, 26 December, 2004 08:35 -0500 Margaret Wasserman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >> I'd remove everything after the comma. There is no >>> >> clear concept of what duties and responsibilities would >>> >> normally be associated with such a position, and you >>> >> have speci

Re: Issue #740: Section 2.2 & 5.6 - IASA BCP -02 Reserves [was RE: I ASA BCP -02 Reserves - section 2.2 /7 and 5.6]

2004-12-26 Thread Margaret Wasserman
Hi Bert, W.r.t. the "divisional" vs "cost center" coounting We got the text on "Divisional Accounting" and on "sepearet set of accounts" from Glenn Ricart, so what should it be. If we do make a change we need to make it consistent over the whole doc. Probably best to keep that for working out w

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, & 7 - Miscellaneous & editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2004-12-26 Thread Margaret Wasserman
At 1:00 PM +0100 12/23/04, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: This document does not affect the ISOC-IETF working relationship as it relates to standards development or the communication of technical advice relevant to the policy and educational goals of ISOC. >> I'd cite RFCs 2026 an

Re: Issue #740/755: Section 5.6 - Building a surplus [was RE: Building a surplus]

2004-12-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Fred's comments are realistic, and I think his text takes us in the right direction. Since the reality is that IETF is quite expensive compared to the guaranteed income, we can't bet on a big reserve any time soon. Brian Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: I think we need more discussion on this. But let

Re: Issue #740: Section 2.2 & 5.6 - IASA BCP -02 Reserves

2004-12-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Scott Bradner wrote: Bert quotes lynn and then says Maybe replace the last two sentences with some variation of "Access to these reserves would expect to follow normal IAOC and ISOC approval processes for any budget overruns." I believe that the current text was quite extensively discussed in th

Re: Issue #737: Section 5.3 - Designated Donations [was RE: IASA BCP -02 Designated Donations - section 5.3]

2004-12-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
in line... Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: Inline -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Leslie Daigle Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 22:29 To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: ietf@ietf.org; Lynn St.Amour Subject: Re: IASA BCP -02 Designated Donations - sectio

Re: Issue #721: Section 5.1 - Financial statements and Audits [was RE : BCP-02: Financial statements and Audits]

2004-12-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote: I have seen some discussion on this but I have not seen a consensus call by Harald. In fact I think Harald said that most of the issues on finances and reserves still need more discussion. SO I have not made a change yet. I know we DO want something about GAAP in the docu

Re: Consensus? #718 Transparency - reports on decisions

2004-12-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
According to Merriam-Webster online: Main Entry: 2 minute Function: transitive verb Inflected Form(s): min?ut?ed; min?ut?ing : to make notes or a brief summary of Brian Sam Hartman wrote: "Harald" == Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Harald> I suggest resolving this by add

Re: #720 and #725 - Appeals and IAD autonomy

2004-12-26 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I think that the text on appeals and recalls in draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-03.txt is necessary and sufficient. There is a way to get decisions reviewed and a way to get IAOC members fired. I don't want any more than that, and I don't want the IAD formally subject to complaints except via his or her manage