Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2004-12-31 Thread Scott Bradner
Personally, I don't understand why we would have a different reimbursement policy for IAOC members than for IESG and IAB members. just being willing to pay travel expenses might make it possible for someone to be able to do the IAOC job (since I think it can be done in non-day-job time) -

Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2004-12-31 Thread Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
Sam, most probably (I would guess) you have a bridge with a US phone number (both toll and toll-free). However, people from outside US have to pay for the long distance fee to call those numbers. However, maybe that particular information was a little bit too specific... Cheers, Jonne. On Fri,

Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2004-12-31 Thread Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki)
Scott, On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 15:18, ext Scott Bradner wrote: Personally, I don't understand why we would have a different reimbursement policy for IAOC members than for IESG and IAB members. just being willing to pay travel expenses might make it possible for someone to be able to do

Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2004-12-31 Thread Scott Bradner
just being willing to pay travel expenses might make it possible for someone to be able to do the IAOC job (since I think it can be done in non-day-job time) - that is not the case for IAB or IESG members To be honest, I don't quite follow this logic. What would be the major difference

Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2004-12-31 Thread John C Klensin
--On Thursday, 30 December, 2004 11:21 -0800 EKR ekr@rtfm.com wrote: Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I admit that I maybe have too much a view point of someone working for a relatively large company. I try to approach this from a position where the IAOC itself

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Paul Hoffman / VPNC
It's a start at balancing out all the Minneapolis-in-winter meetings we have had. --Paul Hoffman, Director --VPN Consortium ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2004-12-31 Thread Scott Bradner
However, people from outside US have to pay for the long distance fee to call those numbers. the services that teh IESG used when I was an AD called out to non-US folk (or to folk that were in those %%(*$%$ hotels that charge per minute for toll free calls longer than some time) Scott

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Paul Vixie
It's a start at balancing out all the Minneapolis-in-winter meetings we have had. the part of mrose's little black book that made me laugh out loud was the description of MFLD (Many Fine Lunches and Dinners). minneapolis has a good airport, good transport from the airport to the venue, and a

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Glen Zorn \(gwz\)
Paul Hoffman / VPNC mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] supposedly scribbled: It's a start at balancing out all the Minneapolis-in-winter meetings we have had. Interesting. I would have thought that to balance unpleasant, one would choose pleasant (or at least tolerable), but not hideous or deadly.

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Glen Zorn \(gwz\)
Paul Vixie supposedly scribbled: It's a start at balancing out all the Minneapolis-in-winter meetings we have had. the part of mrose's little black book that made me laugh out loud was the description of MFLD (Many Fine Lunches and Dinners). minneapolis has a good airport, good transport

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Paul Vixie
this must be a long holiday weekend or something. The hotel absolutely sucks, thanks, so much so that I, for one, have sworn _never_ to stay there again. and we will all, of course, miss you very much. Your concern over the travel budgets of others is touching (if a little creepy). let 'em

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Glen Zorn \(gwz\)
Paul Vixie supposedly scribbled: this must be a long holiday weekend or something. Apparently only in the rest of the world. The hotel absolutely sucks, thanks, so much so that I, for one, have sworn _never_ to stay there again. and we will all, of course, miss you very much. Don't

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Michael Thomas
On Fri, 2004-12-31 at 12:39, Glen Zorn (gwz) wrote: let's keep going to minneapolis for as long as they'll tolerate us, and let's try to find summertime destinations that are equally appalling to the MFLD community. paris, in that regard, should be OFF the table. Don't worry, O

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Christian Huitema
Uh - how is Paris going to be physically dangerous. Are there terrorists planning on blowing up a tower, I really don't think a few warm days count as physically dangerous to most of the crowd I see at IETF meetings... Not to sound alarmist or anything, but there is actually quite a history

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2004-12-31 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004, Christian Huitema wrote: Uh - how is Paris going to be physically dangerous. Are there terrorists planning on blowing up a tower, I really don't think a few warm days count as physically dangerous to most of the crowd I see at IETF meetings... Not to sound alarmist or