Re: Adminrest: BCP -03: Compensation for IAOC members

2005-01-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
John C Klensin wrote: --On Thursday, 30 December, 2004 11:21 -0800 EKR ekr@rtfm.com wrote: Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I admit that I maybe have too much a view point of someone working for a relatively large company. I try to approach this from a position where

Re: AdminRest: BCP -03: Special audits

2005-01-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Jonne, Soininen Jonne (Nokia-NET/Helsinki) wrote: Hi, sorry to tune in late, but keeping up with all the mails that are going around I needed a vacation at the place of my in-laws... I think the issue of a yearly audit has been solved already in the past (Issue 721). However, I think that there is

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, 7 - Miscellaneous editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2005-01-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
John C Klensin wrote: --On Sunday, 26 December, 2004 08:35 -0500 Margaret Wasserman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd remove everything after the comma. There is no clear concept of what duties and responsibilities would normally be associated with such a position, and you have specific

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 2-jan-05, at 3:20, Glen Zorn ((gwz)) wrote: Of course, the MAXIMUM temperatures quoted in the *exceptional* Paris summer of 2003 were 104 degrees Fahrenheit; 2003 was, indeed, exceptional. OTOH, it is hardly exceptional that everyone who can leave the city in August, does. This is no doubt

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, 7 - Miscellaneous editorial

2005-01-02 Thread Scott Bradner
brian asks Perhaps we do indeed need to explicitly limit the IAOC Chair to chairing the IAOC. But we almost do - the following paragraph says: The chair of the IAOC shall have the authority to manage the activities and meetings of the IAOC. The IAOC Chair has no formal duty

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, 7 - Miscellaneous editorial [was : Last Call Comments on draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-02.txt]

2005-01-02 Thread Margaret Wasserman
At 11:37 AM +0100 1/2/05, Brian E Carpenter wrote: The chair of the IAOC shall have the authority to manage the activities and meetings of the IAOC. The IAOC Chair has no formal duty to represent the IAOC, except as directed by IAOC consensus. Isn't this enough? Yes, I think so. That is

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2005-01-01 21:20 From: Glen Zorn \(gwz\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I did (though I admit I see little humor is the story). However, my main point was not so much that we would die in droves (or at all); more to the point is the question of why we seem to go out of our way to find

Re: Issue #727: Section 2.2, 4, 7 - Miscellaneous editorial

2005-01-02 Thread John C Klensin
--On Sunday, 02 January, 2005 08:19 -0500 Scott Bradner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: brian asks Perhaps we do indeed need to explicitly limit the IAOC Chair to chairing the IAOC. But we almost do - the following paragraph says: The chair of the IAOC shall have the authority to manage

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Steve Silverman
This is a bizaare thread. As someone who has been Paris a dozen times and several of those visits in the august, this is one of the best cities in the world to visit. I highly recommend extending your stay around the meeting to enjoy the many tourist attractions. Great food, great musueums,

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, stability,  and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2005-01-01 21:27 From: Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org Separating the specification of language via a field from registration procedure was entirely appropriate, as BCP documents are used for procedures and policies and not for technical

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Glen Zorn \(gwz\)
Iljitsch van Beijnum mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] supposedly scribbled: On 2-jan-05, at 3:20, Glen Zorn ((gwz)) wrote: Of course, the MAXIMUM temperatures quoted in the *exceptional* Paris summer of 2003 were 104 degrees Fahrenheit; 2003 was, indeed, exceptional. OTOH, it is hardly

Re: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Bruce Lilly
Date: 2005-01-01 21:58 From: Peter Constable [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org 2. RFC 3066 did not require every possible combination of language subtag + country subtag to be registered. None *could* be registered. Even if by some oversight or lapse of

Emmanuel DESMET/BE/ALCATEL is out of the office.

2005-01-02 Thread Emmanuel . Desmet
I will be out of the office starting 24/12/2004 and will not return until 10/01/2005. A very Merry Christmas and a dashing Happy New Year to you and all your loved ones!! I'll trystay in the loop, but no promises on my behalf ...;-) Until next year, @+ manu

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Elwyn Davies
This is indeed a bizarre thread.. As a near neighbour (UK), I can tell you that 2003 was indeed exceptional across most of Europe. My home area north east of London was reduced to a desert by the end of August, and there were some accelerated deaths due to heat exhaustion. Things reverted to

Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Theodore Ts'o
On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 10:33:37AM -0800, Glen Zorn (gwz) wrote: BTW, how much worse are the Minneapolis temperatures in march vs those in november? Let's not go there: for some reason the powers-that-be have decided that it's a great idea to gather at least once if not twice a year in a

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Addison Phillips [wM]
Hi Bruce, Even if by some oversight or lapse of judgment the tag en-US were to be registered, its interpretation by a parser would be as an ISO 639 language code followed by an ISO 3166 country code. SUch a registration would therefore be pointless. In practice, therfore, it simply

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Dassa
| -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Behalf Of Theodore Ts'o | Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:20 AM | To: Glen Zorn (gwz) | Cc: 'Iljitsch van Beijnum'; 'IETF Discussion' | Subject: Re: Excellent choice for summer meeting location! | | Shrug

RE: Excellent choice for summer meeting location!

2005-01-02 Thread Glen Zorn \(gwz\)
Bruce Lilly supposedly scribbled: Date: 2005-01-01 21:20 From: Glen Zorn \(gwz\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, I did (though I admit I see little humor is the story). However, my main point was not so much that we would die in droves (or at all); more to the point is the question of why we

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, stability, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ietf-languages- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lilly Ah, but RFC 3066 does not sanction use of tags like sr-CS-Latn without registration, and no such tags are registered. Precisely; an RFC 1766/3066 parser, based on the 1766 and 3066 specifications,

RE: draft-phillips-langtags-08, process, specifications, and extensions

2005-01-02 Thread Peter Constable
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ietf-languages- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Lilly There is nothing in RFC 3066 that says a registered tag must have 3 to 8 characters in the second subtag. It simply requires that any tag in which the second subtag is 3 to 8 letters must be