Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
Seems like unanimous consensus to me :-)
case closed, I think.
Chiming in late (hey, I enjoyed my weekend). Agreed.
Brian
--On lørdag, januar 15, 2005 11:23:41 -0500 Scott W Brim
wrote:
On 1/14/2005 19:05, John C Klensin allegedly wrote:
Proposed change: Get rid
W.r.t. these comments from Lynn:
>
.. snip ..
> -- In 2.1
>
> > IAOC: Internet Administrative Oversight Committee, defined
> > by this document.
>
> Should be IETF rather than Internet (especially with the current
> governance discussion underway unless we really want to liven that
> discus
Fixed in my edit buffer.
OLD:
The IAOC attempts to reach all decisions unanimously.
If the IAOC cannot achieve a unanimous decision,
the IAOC decides by voting.
NEW:
Th
--On 16. januar 2005 19:34 -0500 "Lynn St.Amour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The following three terms are used in this document, and it is not
clear if there is intended to be any difference between them:
- IASA accounts (or IASA budget)
For "IASA accounts" in most instances it would be more help
--On 15. januar 2005 20:17 -0500 Margaret Wasserman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ISSUE #2:
The following three terms are used in this document, and it is not
clear if there is intended to be any difference between them:
- IASA accounts (or IASA budget)
- IETF accounts (or support o
--On 14. januar 2005 12:13 -0800 Ted Hardie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
If so, I think that is a reasonable approach. If you want to leave it up
to
ISOC discussion to determine whether a resolution is sufficient, I suggest
the following:
NEW:
2.5 Effective Date for Commencement of IASA
The pr
John,
I think this one warrants a separate thread..
--On 13. januar 2005 10:06 -0500 John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think this is acceptable given that we *also* have a recall
procedure. In other words, if the IAOC isn't responsive
to a clear message from a review that "you screwed
W.r.t.
> > -- In 2.1
> >
> > > IAOC: Internet Administrative Oversight Committee, defined
> > > by this document.
> >
> > Should be IETF rather than Internet (especially with the current
> > governance discussion underway unless we really want to liven that
> > discussion up :-). I think th
Bert sez:
NEW:
The IAOC attempts to reach consensus on all decisions.
If the IAOC cannot achieve a consensus decision, then
the IAOC decides by voting.
I thought the other point was that the text should
(hmm... autocompletion seems to have done something wrong here...
redirecting thread to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
--On mandag, januar 17, 2005 08:51:19 -0500 Margaret Wasserman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
WRT the ISOC standards pillar, I would say that that is ISOC's
business to decide; the IETF wants
At 7:34 PM -0500 1/16/05, Lynn St.Amour wrote:
The following three terms are used in this document, and it is not
clear if there is intended to be any difference between them:
- IASA accounts (or IASA budget)
For "IASA accounts" in most instances it would be more helpful to
call them "IASA Cost C
At 3:15 PM +0100 1/17/05, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
If this is only to speak to the IASA activity, it becomes:
Transparency: The IETF community shall have complete visibility into
the financial and legal structure of the IASA activity.
In particular, a detailed budget for the entir
Seems we forgot to send issues as ONE ISSUE per EMAIL PLEASE
and use a proper SUBJECT line, so that we can easily check
all mail/postings related to one single issue.
I agree with Scott and Carl.
Bert
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
--On Monday, January 17, 2005 9:06 AM -0500 Scott Bradner
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Bert sez:
NEW:
The IAOC attempts to reach consensus on
all decisions. If the IAOC cannot achieve
a consensus decision, then the IAOC
d
> From: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Carl Malamud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Bradner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], ietf@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: Acceptability of in-kind donations [was RE: Last Call Comments
> on draft-iasa-bcp-04.txt]
> Seems we forgot to send is
--On Monday, January 17, 2005 2:34 PM +0100 Harald Tveit
Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
The one thing that I agree sticks out is that the language of
3777 talks about firing *one* person - in the case where the
group is dysfunctional, it may be better to take the group
out, as you say
> The one thing that I agree sticks out is that the language of 3777 talks
> about firing *one* person - in the case where the group is dysfunctional,
> it may be better to take the group out, as you say.
>
I think if there is enough momentum to engage in these procedures, it won't
be hard to t
Harald Alvestrand wrote:
--On 15. januar 2005 20:17 -0500 Margaret Wasserman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The following three terms are used in this document, and it is not
clear if there is intended to be any difference between them:
- IASA accounts (or IASA budget)
- IETF account
> "John" == John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> --On Monday, January 17, 2005 2:34 PM +0100 Harald Tveit
John> Alvestrand
John> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> ... The one thing that I agree sticks out is that the language
>> of 3777 talks about firing *one* pe
> "John" == John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
John> How the text should be fixed depends a bit on what we do
John> about that "outsourcing" assumption, to which I continue to
John> object. If we can lose it, the paragraph might end up
John> reading something like:
At 1:57 PM +0100 1/17/05, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
The mind-picture I think we want to establish through using
"accounts" is "rows of numbers that can be added up to get totals" -
we want to know what it's costing, and where the money goes.
I'm worried we're getting too detailed but in the
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