Re: Rough consensus? #425 3.5

2005-01-22 Thread Michael StJohns
John/Leslie et al - this is a good improvement, and Leslie's 3.5 now reads in a way I can support. 3.6 still has some sticking points. After the last round of comments I went away and thought and came up with the following: There are three separate things that I think were meant by the origina

Re: Legal review results 1: Intellectual property

2005-01-22 Thread Sam Hartman
I'm still concerned with not having the ability to sublicense rights we have under this section. The last time I discussed this issue Harald pointed out that I was asking for more rights than we had under 3667. However I have sense been convinced that 3667 is broken.

Employment status of IAD (was: Re: Review of draft-ietf-iasa-bcp-04.txt)

2005-01-22 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 21 January, 2005 08:45 -0500 Scott Bradner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > how about (in response to Elwyn's comment) > >Although the IAD is an ISOC employee, he or she works under > thedirection of the IAOC. A committee of the IAOC is > responsible forhiring and firin

Re: Legal review 4: Minor editorial

2005-01-22 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 21 January, 2005 15:45 +0100 Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 7 (Transparency): While I understand the desire for > transparency, there may be some contracts that contain items > that are justifiably > treated as confidential (such as individual performance > re

Re: Legal review 3: Legal advice

2005-01-22 Thread John C Klensin
--On Friday, 21 January, 2005 15:42 +0100 Harald Tveit Alvestrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> From Jorge: > > 3. Legal Advice. > > (Apologies if I sound biased about this one, but) > > Although the IAD and IASA have responsibility for negotiating > and > approving all contracts relatin

Re: Rough consensus? #425 3.5

2005-01-22 Thread avri
Hi, The IAD is required to respond to requests for a review from the IAOC, and the IAOC is required to respond to requests for a review of a decision from the IAB or from the IESG. If members of the community feel that they are unjustly denied a response to a request for review, they may ask the IA

IASA Transition Team page now available

2005-01-22 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
As part of the transition to the IETF Administrative Support Activity (IASA), the IESG, the IAB and ISOC has formed a "transition team" to help start the work required to establish the IASA. The transition team is not empowered to make binding decisions about the IASA. It tries to lay out the t

Re: Rough consensus? #425 3.5

2005-01-22 Thread John C Klensin
Leslie, I think this is a huge improvement, and a large step in the right direction. Two observations: (i) In the revised 3.5, it would be good to get a slightly better handle/ definition on what is, or is not, a "business decision". Since the IAD and IAOC are ultimately all about business deci