Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Ole Jacobsen
If there was a pattern of random customs agents trying to "inspect" your laptop for crypto, I would worry---mostly about the delay that this would cause rather than anything else. But, having travelled in and out of France for the last decade+ I can categorically state that this has NEVER happene

Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Dean Anderson writes: > The IETF could write a letter to the appropriate Ministry to ask for a > special exemption. It can't. Declarations and requests for authorization must come from the vendor or the user. But in practice, most types of crypto are lightly regulated, or not at all, if they us

Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Anthony G. Atkielski
Bill Sommerfeld writes: > As the next IETF meeting will be in Paris, and France has had something > a reputation for placing strict controls on the use of cryptography, I > took a look.. > > (This is, of course, a matter of potential concern to those of us who > carry laptops with encryption softw

Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Sam" == Sam Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Bill" == Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Sam> For many programs, it seems like 15 CFR 740.15 (e) or 15 CFR Sam> 740.17 will allow re-export. I'm not a lawyer; I just had to Sam> argue too much about this stuff

Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Bill" == Bill Sommerfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill> has what claims to be a summary. There appears to be a Bill> personal use exemption of some sort but there's no mention Bill> of re-export of the laptop you imported when you entered the Bill> country.. Same deal w

Re: french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Dean Anderson
The IETF could write a letter to the appropriate Ministry to ask for a special exemption. This may also motivate them to continue the liberalization of the crypto laws. 'Rarely enforced' doesn't mean that they should be ignored. --Dean On Fri, 1 Apr 2005, Bill Sommerfeld wrote:

french crypto regulations relating to personal encryption usage by visitors?

2005-04-01 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
As the next IETF meeting will be in Paris, and France has had something a reputation for placing strict controls on the use of cryptography, I took a look.. (This is, of course, a matter of potential concern to those of us who carry laptops with encryption software for personal use to every IETF m