Re: New attempt to kill whois

2005-08-24 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 05:35:23PM -0400, Bill Sommerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 29 lines which said: I believe Frank's concern is that he wants the ability to refuse services to sites who have not published accurate contact information through whois. Very bad idea, IMHO. But

Re: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
I would like to understand why http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltru-registry-12.txt claims to be a BCP: it introduces a standard track proposition, conflicting with current practices and development projects under way? I support it as a transition standard track RFC needed by

RE: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread Scott Hollenbeck
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) Morfin Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:03 AM To: iesg@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP I would like to understand why

RE: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
On 13:24 24/08/2005, Scott Hollenbeck said: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) Morfin Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:03 AM To: iesg@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to

Re: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread David Hopwood
JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: I would like to understand why http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltru-registry-12.txt claims to be a BCP: it introduces a standard track proposition, conflicting with current practices and development projects under way? I've read this draft and see

Re: New attempt to kill whois

2005-08-24 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
(somewhat offtrack...) --On 24. august 2005 10:27 +0200 Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vast majority of the ccTLD in the world have no whois server (check the whois server field in the IANA whois) and often not publication of contact information at all. But this is

RE: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread Scott Hollenbeck
On Wed, August 24, 2005 9:02 am, JFC (Jefsey) Morfin said: On 13:24 24/08/2005, Scott Hollenbeck said: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JFC (Jefsey) Morfin Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 5:03 AM To: iesg@ietf.org; ietf@ietf.org

Re: New attempt to kill whois

2005-08-24 Thread Frank Ellermann
JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: voluntary publication of information has an extremely flexible and powerfull tool at its disposition. It is named the web. Sure, and reporting trouble also has some powerful tools, send a mail to postmaster@ or abuse@ or similar addresses. The whois info is for

Re: New attempt to kill whois

2005-08-24 Thread Frank Ellermann
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: I believe Frank's concern is that he wants the ability to refuse services to sites who have not published accurate contact information through whois. Very bad idea, IMHO. But it's true that, if you refuse email from .com domains, you have much less spam :-) You

Re: Revised Last Call: 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes' to Proposed

2005-08-24 Thread Sam Hartman
iesg == The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: iesg This last call is being reissued because this document iesg contains a normative reference to an informational RFC: iesg RFC 2144 The CAST-128 Encryption Algorithm. C. Adams. May iesg 1997. iesg It is customary to include

Appeal: Publication of draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 in conflict with referenced draft-schlitt-spf-classic-02

2005-08-24 Thread Julian Mehnle
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 IESG Chair Brian Carpenter, as per the Internet Standards Process, section 6.5, and on behalf of the SPF project, I am filing a formal appeal on the IESG's approval on 2005-06-29[1] to publish the draft-lyon-senderid-core-01 I-D[3] as an Experimental

Re: Revised Last Call: 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes' to Proposed

2005-08-24 Thread John C Klensin
--On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 17:24 -0400 Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iesg == The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: iesg This last call is being reissued because this document iesg contains a normative reference to an informational RFC: iesg RFC 2144 The CAST-128

Re: Revised Last Call: 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes' to Proposed

2005-08-24 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Wed, 2005-08-24 at 19:14, John C Klensin wrote: Even if one believes that it is desirable, 3967 already weakens traditional norms for documents on the IETF standards track. A suggestion that further weakening is needed definitely calls for some discussion, at least IMO. There is

Re: Revised Last Call: 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes' to Proposed

2005-08-24 Thread Sam Hartman
John == John C Klensin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John --On Wednesday, August 24, 2005 17:24 -0400 Sam Hartman John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iesg == The IESG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: iesg This last call is being reissued because this document iesg contains a normative

RE: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
On 18:25 24/08/2005, Scott Hollenbeck said: The people on these lists are not necessarily familiar with the discussion that took place on the LTRU working group mailing list. I believe it is necessary to help those readers understand your questions and comments by putting them in context.

Re: Last Call: 'Tags for Identifying Languages' to BCP

2005-08-24 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 17:34 24/08/2005, David Hopwood wrote: JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: I would like to understand why http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ltru-registry-12.txt claims to be a BCP: it introduces a standard track proposition, conflicting with current practices and development projects

Re: Last Call: 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR)' to Proposed Standard

2005-08-24 Thread Stuart Cheshire
The IESG has received a request from the DNS Extensions WG to consider the following document: - 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR) ' draft-ietf-dnsext-mdns-42.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

Re: Revised Last Call: 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes' to Proposed

2005-08-24 Thread Pekka Savola
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: In particular, there is a long-established tradition of specifying cryptographic algorithms as Informational documents, and referring to them from standards-track documents. I think there needs to be separation of two different kinds of documents,

Protocol Action: 'Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP with MPLS' to Proposed Standard

2005-08-24 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Graceful Restart Mechanism for BGP with MPLS ' draft-ietf-mpls-bgp-mpls-restart-05.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Multiprotocol Label Switching Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alex Zinin and Bill

Protocol Action: 'Identifiers and Test Vectors for HMAC-SHA-224, HMAC-SHA-256, HMAC-SHA-384, and HMAC-SHA-512' to Proposed Standard

2005-08-24 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Identifiers and Test Vectors for HMAC-SHA-224, HMAC-SHA-256, HMAC-SHA-384, and HMAC-SHA-512 ' draft-nystrom-smime-hmac-sha-02.txt as a Proposed Standard This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working

Revised Last Call: 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes' to Proposed

2005-08-24 Thread The IESG
Standard Reply-to: iesg@ietf.org CC: ietf-ssh@netbsd.org The IESG has received a request from the Secure Shell WG to consider the following document: - 'SSH Transport Layer Encryption Modes ' draft-ietf-secsh-newmodes-05.txt as a Proposed Standard This last call is being reissued because