I'm not convinced that non-WG lists should be announced
in a formal way, but it would certainly be dumb to
create a list and tell nobody.
If it is ok to create a list under ietf.org, it ought to be ok to
announce it on ietf-announce. If it is ok to announce such lists, it
ought to be ok to
Some new/reworded text:
A site report for the selected site is important for future planning.
Similarly in the case of failed site decisions, possibly in an anonymous
way such as X, Y, and Z were also considered but had to be postponed or
abandoned due to lack of available space, sponsor
Hi Dave,
While I see your point, and certainly agree in some degree, I also think
that any of the measures to look into who are primary contributors will
turn to be unfair and subjective.
In a so big community this kind of measurement will never work well, unless
everyone has the right to speak
Agree.
Having organized some smaller meetings (up to 800-900 people), I know very
well that this is a real situation and in most of the situations you need to
book a venue at least 18 months in advance.
Regards,
Jordi
De: Ed Juskevicius [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fecha: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 16:45:07
Hi Jari,
Just a couple of questions/clarifications here (rest in separate threads).
Regarding the meals, the point is to make sure that the people have a place
to have it, even if combined with on-site delivered food. I'm not sure if
the document should talk about the exact schedule, but for
Hi Avri,
While I personally agree with all this, I'm not sure we should go so far as
strict MUST NOT ...
Reading the rest of the comments, I think the conclusions are something like
(not necessarily contiguous text in a single place in the document, so needs
to be coherently integrated):
The
I think is clear that we should add some text on this, such as:
The venue should be well prepared in respect to accessibility conditions for
the different able.
Any comments ?
Regards,
Jordi
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Barcelona 2005 Global
Hi all,
I'm trying to summarize and comment the different threads that have received
some input on this document during the last days.
This is the 1st thread (others to follow), related to weather conditions for
the venue.
I think, reading the different comments, the conclusion is that:
1)
Elwyn raised an interesting point in my opinion:
Even if visas are not required, are there any health checks at immigration ?
Would participants need vaccinations before attending ?
My conclusion is:
It should be considered as a handicap if there is any high risk of health
impact for the
Hi Elwyn,
Thanks a lot for all your inputs (and same for the rest of contributors).
I'm not sure to catch a couple of them:
There is also the matter of break time refreshment provision..
succouring 1300 thirsty, half-starved nerds (sorry, IETFers) two or
three times a day at a reasonable cost
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
I'm not so sure about 1. Other comments ?
Irrelevant as long as you're not planning an outdoor meeting,
and if above 0° C won't cause avalanches (= your 2nd point).
But smokers forced to meet outdoors could be a Bad Thing. ;-)
1) Outdoor temperature during the meeting above 0 degrees
Centigrade and below 40.
My personal view is that 2 and 3 are very important, but I'm not
so sure about 1. Other comments ?
Jordi,
I find it hard to believe that outside temperatures are that important
especially considering the
Jordi,
This is over specifying, IMO. I'd simply say that:
Locations should be near a major airport with sufficient local transportation.
John
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/10/22 Sat PM 06:16:44 EEST
To: ietf@ietf.org ietf@ietf.org
Subject: IETF Meeting Venue
Dave, Jordi,
I think this is a non-issue. If participants are motivated, they will show-up.
If their employer values their work, they will cover the meeting costs. Other
SDOs have more extensive travel destinations than the IETF, and participants in
those organizations cope. The IETF is an
I believe this to be over specification, I don't think we should cover this.
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/10/22 Sat AM 03:16:37 EEST
To: ietf@ietf.org ietf@ietf.org
Subject: IETF Meeting Venue Selection Criteria - Other health risks
Elwyn raised an interesting
Jordi,
All of the points, IMO, are over specifying the issues. I wouldn't really care
to see any of these points documented.
John
From: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 2005/10/22 Sat AM 03:05:59 EEST
To: ietf@ietf.org ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IETF Meeting Venue Selection
Dave,
Is that hope for future participation by new attendees an acceptable
basis for making venue choices that hurt current participation by
primary contributors?
What is the evidence that we will not gain that new participation
without hurting current participation by primary
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