RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)
I can ask, but I doubt that this information is available. What I know is that the registration fee for the IEEE 802 Plenary meeting is considerably lower than the one at the IETF (300 USD vs. 500 USD). Regards, Dan > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Eubanks [mailto:[EMAIL PROT

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:45:59 +0200 "Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dear Dan; You should see if you can find out what it costs the IEEE 802 to outsource the wireless LAN, both total and per person. Regards; Marshall Eubanks > > > > > -Original Message- >

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Romascanu, Dan \(Dan\)
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Avri Doria > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:15 AM > To: Ole Jacobsen > Cc: ietf@ietf.org > Subject: Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN > in ad hoc mode > > > > On 11 nov

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Avri Doria
On 11 nov 2005, at 13.56, Ole Jacobsen wrote: In 19 days, this very hotel and meeting rooms will be filled with ICANN attendees, most of whom are not "technical" in our sense of the word. That should be lots of fun :-) It will be interesting to see if ICANN has as much trouble, or IEEE

Re: Bounces from nomcom05 mailing list?

2005-11-11 Thread Ralph Droms
It's a design choice. We've already had some spam and unexpected subscription attempts against the nomcom05 mailing list. The messages are being approved within 12 hours. - Ralph On Fri, 2005-11-11 at 08:08 -0800, Eric Rescorla wrote: > Recent nominations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] have prompted resp

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2005-11-11 Thread Lixia Zhang
starting Thursday 3PM I stopped receiving messages from all ietf- related mailing list. Turned out this was a result of megatron.ietf.org getting on spamcop's black list. I doubt our dept is the only place using spamcop's black list, wonder who else may be missing email without knowing it.

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Nelson, David
Phillip Hallam-Baker writes... > You sound like a 1950s British trades unionist calling his men out on > strike over demarcation. Insult me, if it makes you feel better. I stand by my advice. This is a product usability problem, not a technical shortcoming of the underlying standards. My obse

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
If the architecture profession carried on the way engineers do the world would be full of buildings with no interior walls or floors. You sound like a 1950s British trades unionist calling his men out on strike over demarcation. > -Original Message- > From: Nelson, David [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Jasper Bryant-Greene
Andrew Daviel wrote: (resending this from my subscribed address... duh..) On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Bill Fenner wrote: If people don't know how to turn off ad-hoc mode, will they know how to check their MAC address against the list? Maybe... I know very well how to check my MAC in my primary OS (

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Andrew Daviel
(resending this from my subscribed address... duh..) On Thu, 10 Nov 2005, Bill Fenner wrote: > If people don't know how to turn off ad-hoc mode, will they know how > to check their MAC address against the list? Maybe... I know very well how to check my MAC in my primary OS (Linux) and (I think)

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Ole Jacobsen
In 19 days, this very hotel and meeting rooms will be filled with ICANN attendees, most of whom are not "technical" in our sense of the word. That should be lots of fun :-) I am sure they could use some volunteers if you feel like coming back. Ole Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The I

Re: Audio streaming and slides suggestion

2005-11-11 Thread Paul Hoffman
+ 1 to all of this. Seeing the slides for the WGs and BOFs I have listened to this week has been *very* helpful. I noticed this even more during SAAG yesterday when one speaker didn't have his slides available, and those of us listening or following in Jabber were completely lost. Of course,

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Marshall Eubanks
I think we can make a pretty good guess as to the list, although maybe not the relative positions. I think that from now on registration packets should include a sheet about how to tell if you are running an ad hoc network for a variety of OS flavors, and have sent a detailed suggestion to

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Henning Schulzrinne
Maybe we can at least try to validate this theory by asking at the plenary as to which operating system people are running. Carsten Bormann wrote: Guidelines would be nice, but wouldn't help here: The evidence seems to identify systems as the culprits with operating systems that have not been

Re: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Carsten Bormann
Guidelines would be nice, but wouldn't help here: The evidence seems to identify systems as the culprits with operating systems that have not been upgraded in the last half-decade. Those won't benefit from new information. (I don't want to start discussion about the economic realities that

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Nelson, David
Dave Singer writes... > Some testing and robustness guidelines from the 802.11 group > would also help. While you may believe that IEEE 802.11 should provide these services, I will note that the Wi-Fi Alliance (WFA) currently fills that gap. ___ Ietf

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Dave Singer
At 11:44 -0500 11/11/05, Nelson, David wrote: Phillip Hallam-Baker writes... I think that what we should do is to send the IEEE 801.b/g group a polite letter pointing out that if our people here at the IETF cannot figure this stuff out then their less technically astute customers might b

Re: Audio streaming and slides suggestion

2005-11-11 Thread Allison Mankin
Jordi, We should ask the chairs to put the slides on the Meeting Materials system (where they are available to everyone outside and inside) at the time of the meeting, if not before, now that the upload is so easy. The Working Group Secretaries will get access to the Meeting Materials system,

Audio streaming and slides suggestion

2005-11-11 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Hi, I've heard from the people that is outside that the streaming is very useful, but it will be even more if they can also have access to the slides. I understand that is difficult to get the slides of everyone before the meeting itself, but it should be very easy to centralize the slides in an

RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Nelson, David
Phillip Hallam-Baker writes... > I think that what we should do is to send the IEEE 801.b/g group a > polite letter pointing out that if our people here at the IETF cannot > figure this stuff out then their less technically astute customers might > be having some trouble as well. I don't believe

Bounces from nomcom05 mailing list?

2005-11-11 Thread Eric Rescorla
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RE: Please make sure that you do not run your WLAN in ad hoc mode

2005-11-11 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
I think that what we should do is to send the IEEE 801.b/g group a polite letter pointing out that if our people here at the IETF cannot figure this stuff out then their less technically astute customers might be having some trouble as well. I think that the cause of this 'misconfiguration' is sim