Draft agenda for General Area open meeting

2006-03-03 Thread Brian E Carpenter
General Area open meeting (AD and session chair: Brian Carpenter) Wednesday morning 09:00 Welcome, and introduction (Brian Carpenter) 09:10 RFC 2434bis (Thomas Narten) draft-narten-iana-considerations-rfc2434bis-04.txt (coming soon) 09:25 PESCI wrap-up (Scott Brim)

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-03 Thread Martin Duerst
At 09:28 06/03/01, JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=10411slug=INTERNET-POLICY-MII-DOMAIN%20NAME-DNS http://www.domainesinfo.fr/vie_extensions.php?vde_id=859

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread Mohsen BANAN
On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 22:26:59 +0800, Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Stephane On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 12:26:23AM -0800, Stephane Jefsey Morfin, disguised as Mohsen BANAN Stephane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Stephane a message of 551 lines which said: Hello Stephane

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 05:36 03/03/2006, Mark Andrews wrote: They are still a problem whether you think they should exist or not. The problem is that they are added unilaterally and people using them expect everyone else to be able to resolve them as well. The method of adding them

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
At 07:32 03/03/2006, Martin Duerst wrote: At 09:28 06/03/01, JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=10411slug=INTERNET-POLI CY-MII-DOMAIN%20NAME-DNS

Montreal Announcement (fwd)

2006-03-03 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
FYI - for those who don't read the announce list -- Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services Computing CenterUniversity of Oregon llynch @darkwing.uoregon.edu (541) 346-1774 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
On 2 mar 2006, at 09.26, Mohsen BANAN wrote: More than 5 years ago I predicted what the Chinese government announced today. What happened today: http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html http://www.interfax.cn/showfeature.asp?aid=10411slug=INTERNET-

Re: Multinational Internet or Balkanization?

2006-03-03 Thread Joe Baptista
JFC (Jefsey) Morfin wrote: Whatever we may think it seems that countries allocate themselves gTLDs, isn't it? Exactly. And lets not forget the turkish multiligual TLDs which were tested by the Public-Root on behalf of the Turkish government. Peter Dambier wrote an excellent post to

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread Peter Dambier
Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: On 2 mar 2006, at 09.26, Mohsen BANAN wrote: More than 5 years ago I predicted what the Chinese government announced today. What happened today: http://english.people.com.cn/200602/28/eng20060228_246712.html

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread Joe Baptista
Kurt Erik Lindqvist wrote: To best of my knowledge, that there are no new Chinese root-servers - despite what the press says. And at least we have not seen a drop in queries to our anycast instance in Beijing yet so there even seems to be data to support that... There are. Check Peter

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread Joe Baptista
Mark Andrews wrote: They are still a problem whether you think they should exist or not. The problem is that they are added unilaterally and people using them expect everyone else to be able to resolve them as well. The method of adding them was wrong

Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
Peter, you can call them root servers, but actually they are servers listed in the NTIA root. So they are TLD servers used as by the ISP as root servers. This only seem to mean that the concept of root is not used. This is a TLD forest. Experimentation we carried with dot-root made us to

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2006-03-03 Thread Thomas Narten
Total of 71 messages in the last 7 days through midnight, Thursday, March 2 EST. Messages | Bytes| Who +--++--+ 7.04% |5 | 9.23% |38893 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7.04% |5 | 5.86% |24683 | [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Replacement of draft-minei-wijnands-mpls-ldp-p2mp-01.txt with draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-p2mp-00.txt

2006-03-03 Thread ina
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Re: Beyond China's independent root-servers -- Expanding and Fixing Domain Notation

2006-03-03 Thread Joe Baptista
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: There is nothing to do for the IETF or the Internet technical community (whatever it is). The problem is 100 % political and should be addressed in ICANN / WSIS / IGF / whatever but not in the IETF. Good Lord - your spewing the crapola far and wide today. Like I

Re: Gen-art review of draft-hartman-mailinglist-experiment-01.txt

2006-03-03 Thread Sam Hartman
Elwyn == Elwyn Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elwyn I was selected as General Area Review Team reviewer for Elwyn this specification (for background on Gen-ART, please see Elwyn http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Hi. I'm sorry it has taken me so long to get

IETF 66 Site and Host Announcement

2006-03-03 Thread IETF Administrative Director
The IETF is pleased to announce its selection of Montreal, Canada as the site of IETF 66 being held July 10th through July 14th 2006. This city with its rich culture and history will be at its finest in the summer and the dates coincide with the conclusion of the city's world renowned 27th

Document Action: 'Implementing an Emergency Telecommunications Service for Real Time Services in the Internet Protocol Suite' to Informational RFC

2006-03-03 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Implementing an Emergency Telecommunications Service for Real Time Services in the Internet Protocol Suite ' draft-ietf-tsvwg-mlpp-that-works-04.txt as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the Transport Area Working Group

Protocol Action: 'IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming Protocol (MOBIKE)' to Proposed Standard

2006-03-03 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming Protocol (MOBIKE) ' draft-ietf-mobike-protocol-08.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the IKEv2 Mobility and Multihoming Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Russ Housley and Sam

Last Call: 'Transferring MIB Work from IETF Bridge WG to IEEE 802.1 WG' to Informational RFC

2006-03-03 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Transferring MIB Work from IETF Bridge WG to IEEE 802.1 WG ' draft-harrington-8021-mib-transition-01.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and