Re: RFC Editor RFP Review Request

2006-07-19 Thread Robert Elz
Date:Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:06:10 +0200 From:Henrik Levkowetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Ok. So I'm not sure what you propose here - should we not require | rsync and ftp mirroring capability, or should we ask for it, and not | specify

Re: RFC Editor RFP Review Request

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Narten
Ok. So I'm not sure what you propose here - should we not require rsync and ftp mirroring capability, or should we ask for it, and not specify chapter and verse regarding version etc.? I'd certainly be very unhappy completely abandoning the rsync capability. IMO, the SOW should have some

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Starting from Europe, San Diego seems to be no harder to reach than any other major US city. The SPF route from Geneva has two hops (e.g. via EWR or JFK). I agree that major hub airports are a little easier to reach, but maybe that's why we can get meeting space more easily in non-hub cities?

Re: Response to the Appeal by [...]

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Narten
Speaking only for myself, I have always read the words Further recourse is available... at the beginning of section 6.5.3 of RFC 2026 to mean that an appeal to the ISOC Board can only follow rejection of an appeal by both the IESG and IAB. I think this is essentially right. That is, it makes

Re: Minutes and jabber logs

2006-07-19 Thread Thomas Narten
Folks interested in the topic of minutes may want to go find a copy of (the expired) draft-meyer-agendas-and-minutes-00.txt And if they think this is a good direction to go, encourage the authors to update the document and push it forward through the system. Thomas

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Crocker
Brian E Carpenter wrote: Starting from Europe, San Diego seems to be no harder to reach than any other major US city. The SPF route from Geneva has two hops (e.g. via EWR or JFK). I agree that major hub airports are a little easier to reach, but maybe that's why we can get meeting space

Re: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Crocker
Let me relate my *EXPERIENCE* with some interim meetings (lemonade). [I suppose data is the closest we have to 'working code.'] Meeting held in Dallas: 9 participants. Meeting held in Vancouver: 10 participants. Meeting held in London: 14 participants. Meeting held in Beijing: 21

Re: LA - San Diego transportation (Was: Re: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Crocker
Clint Chaplin wrote: One data point: IEEE 802 is in San Diego this week, and I've met at least one attendee who flew through LAX to get here; that is, he took LAX - SAN as his last leg. the flight is so short, one can feel guilty taking it. however the effort to rent a car from an airport,

Re: RFC Editor RFP Review Request

2006-07-19 Thread Tony Hansen
I use ftp all the time to access the RFCs. I use direct web URLs all the time to access the RFCs. I *occasionally* use rfc-editor.org's web interface. I agree with Henrik. Tony Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Henrik Levkowetz wrote: It may be that the level of detail specification

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Eliot Lear
Dave, A few points: If a non-hub venue offers dramatic net price savings, fabulous facilities, or some other strong justification, it makes sense to go there. Otherwise, a non-hum city forces virtually the entire set of attendees to: 1. Experience an extra flight, each way, with its

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Dave, Actually, airline hubs increase the risk of depending on a single airline, since most hubs (at least in the US) are dominated by a single airline, such as Northwest in Minneapolisand Detroit, US Airways in Philly and Pittsburgh, American in Dallas, Delta in Altanta and Salt Lake City,

Re: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-19 Thread Dave Cridland
On Wed Jul 19 14:53:59 2006, Dave Crocker wrote: 1. Since we know that The London metropolitan area has excellent Internet connectivity and bandwidth, the problems you experienced must have been due to the particular meeting site and not the region. Indeed. The meeting site had confused Full

Re: LA - San Diego transportation (Was: Re: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Michael Thomas
Dave Crocker wrote: Clint Chaplin wrote: One data point: IEEE 802 is in San Diego this week, and I've met at least one attendee who flew through LAX to get here; that is, he took LAX - SAN as his last leg. the flight is so short, one can feel guilty taking it. however the effort to

Re: LA - San Diego transportation (Was: Re: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
I did this the last time we where in San Diego. The only thing to be concerned about is at least United operated small planes with not to good frequency (at least then) and tends to fill up on Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning (I noticed). Then going from International to domestic at

Re: RFC Editor RFP Review Request

2006-07-19 Thread Henrik Levkowetz
Hi Thomas, on 2006-07-19 14:33 Thomas Narten said the following: IMO, the SOW should have some wording that requires/implies that information available via web pages must also be provided in a mirror-friendly way. The principle is that that the info can be easily be replicated on mirror

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Eliot Lear wrote: Minneapolis *is* a hub for Northwest. 4. More generally, secondary venues have less total airline seating capacity and the concentration of our 1200-1400 attendees flying in and out close together usually has a noticeable impact on their flights. This is unlikely to

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 19-jul-2006, at 15:45, Dave Crocker wrote: I agree that major hub airports are a little easier to reach, but maybe that's why we can get meeting space more easily in non-hub cities? If a non-hub venue offers dramatic net price savings, fabulous facilities, or some other strong

Re: LA - San Diego transportation (Was: Re: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Andy Bierman
Dave Crocker wrote: Clint Chaplin wrote: One data point: IEEE 802 is in San Diego this week, and I've met at least one attendee who flew through LAX to get here; that is, he took LAX - SAN as his last leg. the flight is so short, one can feel guilty taking it. however the effort to rent a

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Melinda Shore
On 7/19/06 1:47 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All in all, San Diego seems like a pretty bad choice for a meeting place: it's even hard to get to from inside the US, and it's as far as you can get from Europe without leaving the continental US. I'm not crazy about it either,

Re: LA - San Diego transportation (Was: Re: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Clint Chaplin
The limitation on lack of eating and drinking places near the venue is because of the choice of the particular hotel. IEEE is in the Hyatt on the waterfront, and Old Town is well within walking distace, with lots of restaurant choices. On 7/19/06, Andy Bierman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave

Re: San Diego (was RE: Meetings in other regions)

2006-07-19 Thread Clint Chaplin
Another data point; San Diego is hosting Comic-Con this weekend: they're expecting on the order of 100,000 attendees. On 7/19/06, Eliot Lear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave, A few points: If a non-hub venue offers dramatic net price savings, fabulous facilities, or some other strong

Re: Response to the Appeal by [...]

2006-07-19 Thread JFC Morfin
This is my understanding. However this rises a problem in cases like RFC 3683. Because in this case (this what the IESG claims) the delay for appealing the RFC 3863 text is over. This is why I spoke of RFC 3863 application, the same as there is usually a text and a running code. In a BCP

tsv-area mailing list

2006-07-19 Thread Lars Eggert
Hi, in response to the first TSVAREA meeting in Montreal, we have set up a corresponding area-wide mailing list. The purpose of the TSVAREA meeting (and the associated mailing list) is to inform about and discuss important issues, developments and work within the transport area. The area

RE: Meetings in other regions

2006-07-19 Thread Burger, Eric
Point 2 is exactly my point. Places which should have the best connectivity (tons of international interconnect and PSTN connectivity) can still be defeated by stupid firewall tricks and no host with international PSTN conference services. Conversely, places that North Americans might consider

Document Action: 'Registration of media type audio/mobile-xmf' to Informational RFC

2006-07-19 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Registration of media type audio/mobile-xmf ' draft-kosonen-mobile-xmf-mediatype-01.txt as an Informational RFC This document has been reviewed in the IETF but is not the product of an IETF Working Group. The IESG contact person is Ted

Last Call: 'Document Shepherding From Working Group Last Call to IESG Approval' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding)

2006-07-19 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Document Shepherding From Working Group Last Call to IESG Approval ' draft-ietf-proto-wgchair-doc-shepherding-07.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few

RFC 4568 on Session Description Protocol (SDP) Security Descriptions for Media Streams

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4568 Title: Session Description Protocol (SDP) Security Descriptions for Media Streams Author: F. Andreasen, M. Baugher, D. Wing

RFC 4536 on The application/smil and application/smil+xml Media Types

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4536 Title: The application/smil and application/smil+xml Media Types Author: P. Hoschka Status: Informational Date: July 2006

RFC 4569 on Internet Assigned Number Authority (IANA) Registration of the Message Media Feature Tag

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4569 Title: Internet Assigned Number Authority (IANA) Registration of the Message Media Feature Tag Author: G. Camarillo Status:

RFC 4566 on SDP: Session Description Protocol

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4566 Title: SDP: Session Description Protocol Author: M. Handley, V. Jacobson, C. Perkins Status: Standards Track Date: July 2006

RFC 4573 on MIME Type Registration for RTP Payload Format for H.224

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4573 Title: MIME Type Registration for RTP Payload Format for H.224 Author: R. Even, A. Lochbaum Status: Standards Track Date: July

RFC 4571 on Framing Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) and RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Packets over Connection-Oriented Transport

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4571 Title: Framing Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) and RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Packets over Connection-Oriented Transport Author:

RFC 4586 on Extended RTP Profile for Real-time Transport Control Protocol (RTCP)-Based Feedback: Results of the Timing Rule Simulations

2006-07-19 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4586 Title: Extended RTP Profile for Real-time Transport Control Protocol (RTCP)-Based Feedback: Results of the Timing Rule Simulations