Re: Comments on draft-dusseault-caldav-15 and draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Ellermann
Lisa Dusseault wrote: > one could define a Very Liberal Comparator (VLC) for general > use. It would be handy to have one which matched e with E, > é, è É... and matched o with O, ø, ô, and so on. Good idea. I'm thinking of something in that direction for my mail filters: At the moment any ty

RE: Comments on draft-dusseault-caldav-15 anddraft-newman-i18n-comparator-14

2006-09-26 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
I think that we need to decide what we are trying to achieve in any given situation. I have been thinking mostly about DNS but the ideas are probably more general: Modifying Soebok's trichotemy, there are different uses that can be made of an identifier: 0) Random There is no systemati

Re: Comments on draft-dusseault-caldav-15 and draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14

2006-09-26 Thread John C Klensin
--On Monday, 25 September, 2006 11:07 -0700 Lisa Dusseault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sep 23, 2006, at 2:20 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >> But as a matter of fact, draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14 >> doesn't define any collations that would actually solve the >> Unicode NF issue, so it's

Re: Comments on draft-dusseault-caldav-15 and draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14

2006-09-26 Thread Harald Alvestrand
I've got a "very liberal" comparator in production at the Linux Counter project. It mostly works, because the people who assign names tend to not assign names that collide under the comparator. But the strings that result from the comparator are quite distant from "expected" strings in many c

25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread rpelletier
It was 25 years ago this month that IP and TCP were formally standardized by the publication of RFC 791 and RFC 793. "Vint Cerf and Robert Kahn are widely credited with the design of TCP/IP, and many others involved in the ARPANET project made significant contributions," says the Internet Society.

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It was 25 years ago this month that IP and TCP were formally > standardized by the publication of RFC 791 and RFC 793. It might be worth emphasizing to people that this is the anniversary of the *RFC's* (from September, 1981), and *NOT* the anniversary of I

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Bob Braden
*> *> There was a substantial discussion on the Internet-History mailing list *> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) of which date was the correct one for the *> creation of TCPv4/IPv4, earlier this year (at the end of March, if anyone's *> looking in the mailing-list archive). I don't know if we follo

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Jeffrey I. Schiller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 And one of the lessons learned that night (as the person cutting over 0/6 (aka 10.0.0.6, MIT-MULTICS): Don't do cutovers like this on January 1st! -Jeff On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 11:35:21AM -0700, Bob Braden wrote: > > *> >

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Crocker
Bob Braden wrote: I believe that the birth date for the Internet (protocols) was Jan 1, 1983, when the ARPAnet cut over from NCP to TCP/IP. or perhaps 1976 when TCP was first implemented and tested, including crossing administrative boundaries. (There is a minor question about how to clas

RE: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Hallam-Baker, Phillip
Or perhaps the lesson should be that planning for the transition is as important as the end state. If you look at the big dig something like a quarter of their cost went into keeping the traffic movving while they moved the highway. > -Original Message- > From: Jeffrey I. Schiller [mai

RE: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Bob Braden
Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: *> Or perhaps the lesson should be that planning for the transition is as important as the end state. Please see RFC 801, "NCP/TCP TRANSITION PLAN" by Jon Postel. See also RFCs 845 and 846 on the transition progress. Bob Braden _

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread stephen wolff
Still got the button? -s On Sep 26, 2006, at 14:35, Bob Braden wrote: *> *> There was a substantial discussion on the Internet-History mailing list *> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) of which date was the correct one for the *> creation of TCPv4/IPv4, earlier this year (at the end of March,

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew G. Malis
I was the person who wrote the IMP code and, on January 1, "pulled the switch" to disable port 0 (NCP) on the ARPANET IMP interfaces.  I had also included the abiltity to override the switch on a port-by-port basis, and we had a procedure in place well prior to the cutover for approved exceptions t

Re: Last Call: 'Domain Suffix Option for DHCPv6' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnsdomain)

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Ellermann
The IESG wrote: > as a Proposed Standard What's a "domain suffix" ? I don't see or missed it in 3315 and 4361. LDH labels with a TLD maybe ? Are they guaranteed to be "valid" in some ways, could a host "name" send mail as "name.suffix" ? Could it use "@name.suffix" in Message-IDs ? Does the

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Ole Jacobsen
OK, Andy. Can we put you in charge of the IP v4/v6 transition, say January 1, 2009? :-) Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher, The Internet Protocol Journal Cisco Systems Tel: +1 408-527-8972 GSM: +1 415-370-4628 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.cisco.com/ipj ___

Re: Last Call: 'Domain Suffix Option for DHCPv6' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnsdomain)

2006-09-26 Thread Fred Baker
On Sep 26, 2006, at 1:15 PM, Frank Ellermann wrote: Sorry, probably that's all obvious, but where is ["domain suffix"] defined ? At the Verisign site. It is the new-speak for use when all us ancient geeky types would prefer "TLD". ___ Ietf mail

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew G. Malis
Ole,   That's a good one!  I would hate to see the length of that exception list :-)  And who would have the authority to grant the exceptions   Cheers, Andy   -  On 9/26/06, Ole Jacobsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, Andy. Can we put you in charge of the IP v4/v6 transition, sayJ

IDN effort has ballooned in scope without involving relevant additional review

2006-09-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "John" == John C Klensin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> --On Monday, 25 September, 2006 11:07 -0700 Lisa Dusseault John> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sep 23, 2006, at 2:20 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: >>> But as a matter of fact, draft-newman-i18n-comparator-14 >>>

Re: Last Call: 'Domain Suffix Option for DHCPv6' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-dhc-dhcpv6-opt-dnsdomain)

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Ellermann
Fred Baker wrote: ["domain suffix"] > It is the new-speak for use when all us ancient geeky types > would prefer "TLD". I thought it's some new kind of DHCP builtin DynDNS service. If it's a TLD I'm perplexed why that would ever change for a given DHCP server. And for clients of different serv

Re: 25th Anniversary!

2006-09-26 Thread Dave Crocker
Ole Jacobsen wrote: OK, Andy. Can we put you in charge of the IP v4/v6 transition, say January 1, 2009? That soon? That's only 15 years after work on IPv6 began. d/ -- Dave Crocker Brandenburg InternetWorking bbiw.net ___ Ietf mailing li