Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-02 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Feb 1 19:17:00 2007, IETF member Dave Aronson wrote: Michael Richardson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If there is interest, I will make a list. If someone has a more PC name, I'll use it. As we all know, the absolutely most critically important thing about any project, and a

Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-02 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
And think of the Security Considerations section. (And do we need IANA considerations, too?) ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment

2007-02-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-02-01 20:06, Frank Ellermann wrote: Brian Carpenter wrote: http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/ions/drafts/ion-procdocs.html I liked the I-D better, the xml2rfc HTML output is hard to read. Really? I find the links in the HTML version invaluable. For an ION you could probably remove

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2007-02-02 Thread Thomas Narten
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Re: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-02 Thread Eliot Lear
I'd have to agree with Pekka. We've just gone through this with ATIS and reliable accounting, which is quite a bit messier than this problem. So long as the log indicates that something bad has happened, it seems to me that you're covered. Of course, with reliability comes some amount of

Re: [Gen-art] Re: Gen-ART review of draft-ietf-l2tpext-failover-11.txt

2007-02-02 Thread Brian E Carpenter
I'm going to No Objection and I suppose you'll do an RFC Editor note. Brian On 2007-01-30 16:39, Mark Townsley wrote: On second look, this is rather small. Vipin, I can do either. If you wish to provide me text in OLD NEW format, or a new document. - Mark Suresh Krishnan wrote: I am

Re: ion-procdocs open for public comment

2007-02-02 Thread Frank Ellermann
Brian E Carpenter wrote: I liked the I-D better, the xml2rfc HTML output is hard to read. Really? I find the links in the HTML version invaluable. Me too, but I prefer the rfcmarkup HTML version of the I-D, for starters it uses a monospaced font, it doesn't spice the output with character

Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-02 Thread Harald Tveit Alvestrand
--On 2. februar 2007 10:06 + Steven M. Bellovin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And think of the Security Considerations section. (And do we need IANA considerations, too?) For this subject, there is absolutely no way to avoid an internationalization considerations section - and of course

Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-02 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 7:55 AM -0800 2/2/07, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: (seriously: Just Do It!) Isn't this a perfect test case for the IETF meeting Wiki? I know that there was little contribution in San Diego, but this sounds like a good opportunity to see if folks can find and edit the wiki. --Paul

Re: ietf-moms

2007-02-02 Thread Frank Ellermann
Paul Hoffman wrote: there was little contribution in San Diego, but this sounds like a good opportunity to see if folks can find and edit the wiki. I found it but couldn't edit it, so that question is IMO answered. Frank ___ Ietf mailing list

Re: draft-ietf-syslog-protocol: Reliable delivery considered harmful.

2007-02-02 Thread David W. Hankins
On Fri, Feb 02, 2007 at 08:31:49AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: Wether it is a bug or a feature depends on your requirments. On some high-security environments, people prefer to suspend the service rather than not being able to log it. (Otherwise, an attacker could easily attempt many

Protocol Action: 'Multi-Topology (MT) Routing in OSPF' to Proposed Standard

2007-02-02 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Multi-Topology (MT) Routing in OSPF ' draft-ietf-ospf-mt-08.txt as a Proposed Standard This document is the product of the Open Shortest Path First IGP Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Bill Fenner and Ross Callon. A URL of this