RE: [PWE3] Last Call: draft-ietf-pwe3-aii-aggregate (AII Types for Aggregation) to Proposed Standard

2007-03-29 Thread BALUS Florin
Sending it here for tracking purposes, we need to correct the following statement on page 5 If the PE hosting the AIIs is present in an autonomous system where the provider is not running BGP, chooses not to expose this information or does not wish to use the global ID,

Mail delivery problems

2007-03-29 Thread Markku Savela
I recently got notice from IETF mailing lists that my mail has been bouncing. The notice didn't have any examples of the bounces, so I couldn't get any clue what is wrong. However, now I got a bounce notice from bugtrag.. and it had this note --- The Postfix

Re: Mail delivery problems

2007-03-29 Thread Markku Savela
--- Apparently networksolutions for some reason occasionally resolves burp.tkv.asdf.org into resalehost.networksolutions.com. Isn't this behaviour totally antisocial from networksolutions and how can it be stopped? Well, insert foot in mouth... possibly the domain

Re: Mail delivery problems

2007-03-29 Thread Jeroen Massar
Markku Savela wrote: I recently got notice from IETF mailing lists that my mail has been bouncing. The notice didn't have any examples of the bounces Those bounces are delivery problems, see below why. so I couldn't get any clue what is wrong. However, now I got a bounce notice from

Re: Identifying meeting attendees

2007-03-29 Thread Edward Lewis
At 1:50 -0700 3/28/07, Ole Jacobsen wrote: However, I think it would be useful to at least include company/organization name (perhaps even country)... I like that, and I have one more request - folk's names presented in their (personally preferred, etc.) native script. --

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Folks, we didn't get a lot of support expressed in the second last call. If I were making a consensus call today I'd say we do not have consensus to publish draft-housley-tls-authz-extns as a proposed standard given the IPR claims against it. However Russ pointed out to me that it may be that

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Simon Josefsson
I don't care strongly about the standards track status. However, speaking as implementer of the protocol: If the document ends up as informational or experimental, I request that we make an exception and allow the protocol to use the already allocated IANA protocol constants. That will avoid

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Frank Ellermann
Sam Hartman wrote: I propose to conduct a last call to confirm that we don't have consensus to publish as a proposed standard. Does this seem like the right approach to folks? Did that ever happen before ? A Last Call trying to get consensus that there's no consensus. If silence means

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Simon == Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon I don't care strongly about the standards track status. Simon However, speaking as implementer of the protocol: If the Simon document ends up as informational or experimental, I Simon request that we make an exception and

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Dave Cridland
On Thu Mar 29 15:39:07 2007, Frank Ellermann wrote: Sam Hartman wrote: I propose to conduct a last call to confirm that we don't have consensus to publish as a proposed standard. Does this seem like the right approach to folks? Did that ever happen before ? A Last Call trying to get

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Peter Sylvester
I think that the current texts would merit some additional work. In particular to permit authorisation statements and to clarify that how which client acts as a proxy for someone else. I mentioned the first part to the authors some time ago, but they didn't buy the idea. Sam Hartman wrote:

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Simon Josefsson
Sam Hartman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon == Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Simon I don't care strongly about the standards track status. Simon However, speaking as implementer of the protocol: If the Simon document ends up as informational or experimental, I

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Ted Hardie
At 10:06 AM -0400 3/29/07, Sam Hartman wrote: Folks, we didn't get a lot of support expressed in the second last call. If I were making a consensus call today I'd say we do not have consensus to publish draft-housley-tls-authz-extns as a proposed standard given the IPR claims against it. However

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Ted == Ted Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted I thought Eric Rescorla and Pasi Eronen had suggested that Ted this document be evaluated by the TLS working group and the Ted IPR terms evaluated there. I have that suggestion in an Ted email thread on the main IETF list, started

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Ted Hardie
At 1:05 PM -0400 3/29/07, Sam Hartman wrote: The problem is that this work is outside the charter of the TLS working group. So, I don't think asking them to take on the document would be appropriate. I also don't think rechartering TLS for this purpose would be appropriate. It is actually fairly

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 17:12:18 +0200 Simon Josefsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The community needs to evaluate patent claims, and preferably reach conservative agreement (rough consensus is not good enough) on whether we should care about a particular patent or not. Input to that community

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Ted == Ted Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted At 1:05 PM -0400 3/29/07, Sam Hartman wrote: The problem is that this work is outside the charter of the TLS working group. So, I don't think asking them to take on the document would be appropriate. I also don't think

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Ted Hardie
At 4:25 PM -0400 3/29/07, Sam Hartman wrote: Ted, I'd like to do this. However I could use some help figuring out exactly what question I'm asking the TLS working group to provide advice on. I guess it could be as simple as Do you think draft-housley-tls-authz-extns is worth publishing on the

Re: Withdrawal of Approval and Second Last Call: draft-housley-tls-authz-extns

2007-03-29 Thread Sam Hartman
Ted == Ted Hardie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ted At 4:25 PM -0400 3/29/07, Sam Hartman wrote: Ted, I'd like to do this. However I could use some help figuring out exactly what question I'm asking the TLS working group to provide advice on. I guess it could be as simple as

Re: [xml2rfc] Re: Problems with xml.resource.org

2007-03-29 Thread Dave Crocker
Marshall Rose wrote: the server broke and is being rebuilt. we'll remove the A RR for that ip address until it's fixed. It occurs to me that xml2rfc has become important enough to the IETF to warrant at least having a mirrored copy of the site be maintained by the IETF secretariat. With

Re: Identifying meeting attendees

2007-03-29 Thread Yao Jiankang
- Original Message - From: Edward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The IETF ietf@ietf.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 9:51 PM Subject: Re: Identifying meeting attendees At 1:50 -0700 3/28/07, Ole Jacobsen wrote: I like that, and I have one more request - folk's

RFC 4820 on Padding Chunk and Parameter for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP)

2007-03-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4820 Title: Padding Chunk and Parameter for the Stream Control Transmission Protocol (SCTP) Author: M. Tuexen, R. Stewart, P. Lei

RFC 4817 on Encapsulation of MPLS over Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol Version 3

2007-03-29 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 4817 Title: Encapsulation of MPLS over Layer 2 Tunneling Protocol Version 3 Author: M. Townsley, C. Pignataro, S. Wainner, T. Seely,