Re: On the IETF Consensus process

2007-05-24 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Wednesday, May 23, 2007 06:56:10 PM -0700 Lakshminath Dondeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Jeff, On a first scan of your email I thought to myself, I agree with most of it and so pondered about the problem that I was trying to put forth in front of the community. The conclusion was tha

Re: Putting IPR on IPFIX while the target of IPFIX is to in effect open NetFlow

2007-05-24 Thread Eliot Lear
[Not speaking in any way for Cisco on this issue...] Simon Josefsson wrote: Such clauses may be acceptable when we know what the patent is, and what it covers, but this refer to unpublished patent applications. This particular license also explicitly enable Cisco to collect retroactive royalti

Re: Putting IPR on IPFIX while the target of IPFIX is to in effect open NetFlow

2007-05-24 Thread Simon Josefsson
Brian E Carpenter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 2007-05-23 14:19, Jeroen Massar wrote: > ... >>> Alternatively, directly look up >>> http://www1.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-00.txt > >> (The above long formatted lines are not mine, 72 is a nice limit F

Re: Putting IPR on IPFIX while the target of IPFIX is to in effect open NetFlow (Was: [IPFIX] Implementation Guidelines // SCTP)

2007-05-24 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2007-05-23 14:19, Jeroen Massar wrote: ... Alternatively, directly look up http://www1.ietf.org/ietf/IPR/cisco-ipr-draft-claise-ipfix-export-per-sctp-stream-00.txt (The above long formatted lines are not mine, 72 is a nice limit FYI) Sorry to be blunt, but what exactly is the point again