Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Bill Manning
On Sat, Sep 15, 2007 at 12:06:26PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: Mark, I get renumbered in IPv4 today. I suspect there is probably a question of scale here. I wouldn't be surprised that a small home network with a limited number of subnets and systems could be automatically

T-shirt

2007-09-15 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
ok... enough conversation about DHCP and stuff... there are ways to express opinions other than writing up a draft, so here goes.

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Mark Andrews
interestingly, some software vendors ship w/ license keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so easy to update in my experience. I've always thought that practice to be STUPID. It was stupid 15 years ago and it is still

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 12:08 AM +1000 9/16/07, Mark Andrews wrote: interestingly, some software vendors ship w/ license keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so easy to update in my experience. I've always thought that practice to be STUPID. It

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15-sep-2007, at 16:51, Paul Hoffman wrote: keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so easy to update in my experience. I've always thought that practice to be STUPID. It was stupid 15 years ago and it is still stupid

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 5:08 PM +0200 9/15/07, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 15-sep-2007, at 16:51, Paul Hoffman wrote: keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so easy to update in my experience. I've always thought that practice to be STUPID. It was

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Terry Gray
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007, Paul Hoffman wrote: Certainly. Every vendor who ties a license to an IP address has already had to deal with customers who change IP addresses. I doubt that Bill's mentioning of this practice was meant to say therefore we can never do anything that would cause

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 15-sep-2007, at 18:42, Terry Gray wrote: Example: Fred mentioned that it would be nice to just use some form of host names, instead of addresses, but in the world I live in, MANY groups are geographically dispersed and want Traffic Disruption Appliances on each of their subnets to allow

Hello IETF!

2007-09-15 Thread bidu.pub
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Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Bill Manning
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:08:30AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: interestingly, some software vendors ship w/ license keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so easy to update in my experience. I've always thought that practice to be

Re: Hello IETF!

2007-09-15 Thread Joe Baptista
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Re: Hello IETF!

2007-09-15 Thread Marc Manthey
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Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Mark Andrews
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:08:30AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: interestingly, some software vendors ship w/ license keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so easy to update in my experience. I've always thought that practice to be

Re: IPv6 will never fly: ARIN continues to kill it

2007-09-15 Thread Bill Manning
On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:17:21PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: On Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 12:08:30AM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: interestingly, some software vendors ship w/ license keys tied to IP addresses... particularly for enterprise level stuff. not so

RE: Renumbering

2007-09-15 Thread Michel Py
I have to say that this latest thread about renumbering has been entertaining; besides the usual trolls I have never seen as many un-experienced, incompetent, or both, contributors who think just because they have read something about it in a magazine while waiting at the dentist entitles them to

Re: Subscribtion and qustion

2007-09-15 Thread Hex Star
On 9/14/07, Natasha Petrovska [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sir/Madam, I am a postgraduate student from Macedonia. I would like to attend some of your meetings, since my thesis is connected with GPS and I work in a Public transport enterprise. Can I be your member or atendee or receive any