Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Bill Manning
by the time layer 7 is reached, there is only one address to be concerned about... or should be. if the library your thinking of tests reachability, then you have moved the routing function into the host - which is a much larger problem space. DISCOVER, unlike QUERY, is designed to deal

Re: Gen-ART Last Call Review of draft-melnikov-imap-search-res-06.txt

2008-01-07 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Spencer Dawkins wrote: Hi, Alexey, I have been selected as the General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviewer for this draft (for background on Gen-ART, please see http://www.alvestrand.no/ietf/gen/art/gen-art-FAQ.html). Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments you

RE: LC reviews: draft-brenner-dime-peem

2008-01-07 Thread Brenner, Michael Ralf (Michael)
Hi Joel, Thanks for forwarding the below - it helps me in understanding the process. I am not sure whether I am supposed to respond or not on the comments you provided, but it cannot hurt - so I will do my best. If I need to provide those comments to a larger forum, or in a different forum -

Re: [apnic-talk] AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Jeffrey A. Williams
Barbara and all, Why only 4 root servers? Regards, Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 277k members/stakeholders strong!) Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom - Abraham Lincoln Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very often the accident of glory -

Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 6 jan 2008, at 22:00, Brian E Carpenter wrote: The library I'm thinking of would also have to handle reachability checking - and as John said, would ideally also be stateful to avoid repeating the same timeouts. I don't think the thing that we need most in this area is a library. I did

IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, John C Klensin wrote: However, there is also a rule that, if no MX records are present at a particular node, the mail system looks for an A RR at the same node and treats it as if its label appeared with an MX preference of 0. That default does not apply to records,

Re: IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Jeroen Massar
Tony Finch wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, John C Klensin wrote: However, there is also a rule that, if no MX records are present at a particular node, the mail system looks for an A RR at the same node and treats it as if its label appeared with an MX preference of 0. That default does not apply

IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, John C Klensin wrote: On Friday, 04 January, 2008 12:01 -0800 Bill Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general answer when needing to communicate between similar applications that run on different address families has traditionally been the application layer gateway

Re: IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Tony Finch
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Jeroen Massar wrote: 'a' 'b' are both separate MX's. As such according to the above pseudo-code, which I deduced from the RFC, whenever 'a' is contactable and you can get a response from it, you should honor that response. Thus if you contact 'a' and it replies with a 450

IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Tony Finch
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, John C Klensin wrote: There are no MX rules at all about which address must be tried first and some handwaving in RFC 2821 about how many addresses at a given preference level need to be tried at all. In practice MTAs often randomise host addresses, ignoring the

review comments on draft-ietf-btns-prob-and-applic-06.txt

2008-01-07 Thread Stephen Kent
I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments just

Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread SM
At 08:14 06-01-2008, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: Not sure what you mean here by SMTP clients... Would that be client computers such as the one I'm typing this message on? But those don't look at MX records, unless I'm very much mistaken. What you are using to send this message is known as a

Re: IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Franck Martin
Did you file a bug on postifx? Jeroen Massar wrote: -- Franck Martin ICT Specialist [EMAIL PROTECTED] SOPAC, Fiji GPG Key fingerprint = 44A4 8AE4 392A 3B92 FDF9 D9C6 BE79 9E60 81D9 1320 Toute connaissance est une reponse a une question G.Bachelard signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2008-01-07 19:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian E Carpenter wrote: As Phill H-B has implied more than once, there's scope for a library on top of the socket API that takes care of this once and for all. Does anyone have such a library? Some TCP/IP stacks include this kind of API:

Re: IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Dave Crocker
Tony Finch wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, John C Klensin wrote: On Friday, 04 January, 2008 12:01 -0800 Bill Manning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The general answer when needing to communicate between similar applications that run on different address families has traditionally been the application

Re: IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Dave Crocker
John C Klensin wrote: I'd make a further distinction and claim that even many email gateways don't rise to the level (or sink to the depths) of what we usually think about as ALGs. First of all, I would contend that an SMTP system that accepts an SMTP-and-MIME conformant message that arrives

IPv4/IPv6 transition with Route Through RRs

2008-01-07 Thread Willie Gillespie
Basic abstract of the e-mail: In RFC 1183, an experimental DNS RR type is defined called the Route Through (RT) RR. Although not its original purpose, could this be expanded and used to ease the IPv4 to IPv6 transition? --- A simple state table gives us 9 possibilities: # | Endpoint A |

Re: IPv4/IPv6 transition with Route Through RRs

2008-01-07 Thread Willie Gillespie
Willie Gillespie wrote: snip So, concerning Case #3 and Case #7, which is basically a IPv4 host on one end and a IPv6 host on the other: If a IPv6-only host wants to connect to a IPv4-only host, could an RT record be used to point the IPv6 machine to a suitable IPv6-to-IPv4 gateway? *

Re: IPv6 and email routing, was Re: AAAA records to be added for root servers

2008-01-07 Thread Tony Finch
On Mon, 7 Jan 2008, Dave Crocker wrote: Tony Finch wrote: MTAs *are* ALGs. (Uh Oh.) Nope. Sorry, I should have been clear that I was talking about practice rather than architecture. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dotat.at/ HUMBER THAMES DOVER WIGHT PORTLAND PLYMOUTH

REVISED Last Call: draft-brenner-dime-peem (Diameter Policy Processing Application) to Informational RFC

2008-01-07 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Diameter Policy Processing Application ' draft-brenner-dime-peem-01.txt as an Informational RFC The document asks for the assignment of a Diameter Command Code to be used in a vendor-specific

Last Call: draft-klensin-net-utf8 (Unicode Format for Network Interchange) to Proposed Standard

2008-01-07 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'Unicode Format for Network Interchange ' draft-klensin-net-utf8-07.txt as a Proposed Standard The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this

RFC 5069 on Security Threats and Requirements for Emergency Call Marking and Mapping

2008-01-07 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5069 Title: Security Threats and Requirements for Emergency Call Marking and Mapping Author: T. Taylor, Ed., H. Tschofenig, H.

RFC 5089 on IS-IS Protocol Extensions for Path Computation Element (PCE) Discovery

2008-01-07 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5089 Title: IS-IS Protocol Extensions for Path Computation Element (PCE) Discovery Author: JL. Le Roux, Ed., JP. Vasseur, Ed.,

Last Call: draft-vanelburg-sipping-served-user (The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) P-Served-User Private-Header (P-Header)) to Informational RFC

2008-01-07 Thread The IESG
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the following document: - 'The Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) P-Served-User Private-Header (P-Header) ' draft-vanelburg-sipping-served-user-04.txt as an Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the

RFC 5031 on A Uniform Resource Name (URN) for Emergency and Other Well-Known Services

2008-01-07 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5031 Title: A Uniform Resource Name (URN) for Emergency and Other Well-Known Services Author: H. Schulzrinne Status: Standards Track Date:

RFC 5012 on Requirements for Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies

2008-01-07 Thread rfc-editor
A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries. RFC 5012 Title: Requirements for Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Author: H. Schulzrinne, R. Marshall, Ed. Status: