[secdir] Review of draft-levin-mmusic-xml-media-control-12

2008-01-17 Thread Larry Zhu
Hello, I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments

Vint for the Japan Prize on TCP/IP

2008-01-17 Thread Jun Murai
Vint, Congraturation, (again)! jun = http://www.japanprize.jp/prize/2008/e1_cerf.htm ___ Ietf mailing list Ietf@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf

[secdir] Review of draft-ietf-enum-calendar-service-03

2008-01-17 Thread Larry Zhu
Hello, I have reviewed this document as part of the security directorate's ongoing effort to review all IETF documents being processed by the IESG. These comments were written primarily for the benefit of the security area directors. Document editors and WG chairs should treat these comments

Call for Comment: RFC 4693 experiment

2008-01-17 Thread The IESG
RFC 4693, Section 4 says: This experiment is expected to run for a period of 12 months, starting from the date of the first ION published using this mechanism. At the end of the period, the IESG should issue a call for comments from the community, asking for people to state their agreement

Re: Call for Comment: RFC 4693 experiment

2008-01-17 Thread Dan York
I have to agree with Fred here: On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Fred Baker wrote: I would argue that (1) has not been shown. Several IONs have been produced, but I don't see people referring to them. It looks like it is being treated as a lightweight way to publish something a lot like an

Re: Call for Comment: RFC 4693 experiment

2008-01-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2008-01-18 08:33, Dan York wrote: I have to agree with Fred here: On Jan 17, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Fred Baker wrote: I would argue that (1) has not been shown. Several IONs have been produced, but I don't see people referring to them. It looks like it is being treated as a lightweight way to

Re: Call for Comment: RFC 4693 experiment

2008-01-17 Thread Russ Housley
Harald: This is my reservation as well. The ION process has not been as light-weight as I would like. Frankly, it is easier to generate an IESG Statement than an ION. Russ At 05:27 PM 1/17/2008, Harald Alvestrand wrote: Being the RFC author, I'm naturally very much interested.

Re: Call for Comment: RFC 4693 experiment

2008-01-17 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Being the RFC author, I'm naturally very much interested. still, I'll observe that the procedure that seemed most important to me, which was getting new versions out whenever they were needed, has been exercised exactly once: in http://www.ietf.org/IESG/content/ions/dated/, the only document

Re: houston.rr.com MX fubar?

2008-01-17 Thread Mark Andrews
On Thu, 17 Jan 2008, Mark Andrews wrote: a) when RFC 2821 was written IPv6 existed and RFC 2821 acknowledged its existance. It did DID NOT say synthesize from . RFC 2821 only talks about IPv6 domain literals. The MX resolution algorithm in section 5 is written as if in

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Added sentences to section 8.1 explaining that BCPs and FYIs are sub- series of Informational RFCs. Namely: The sub-series of FYIs and BCPs are comprised of Informational documents in the sense of the enumeration above, with special tagging applied. That's certainly true

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 2008-01-18 13:14, Paul Hoffman wrote: At 12:50 PM +1300 1/18/08, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Added sentences to section 8.1 explaining that BCPs and FYIs are sub- series of Informational RFCs. Namely: The sub-series of FYIs and BCPs are comprised of Informational

Updating the Tao of the IETF

2008-01-17 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. In the year or so since the revised Tao of the IETF has come out, a few people have pointed out errors. I have started a new version; see below. We'll probably leave this as an I-D for about a year to catch up with changes in the IETF (IONs maybe?), then submit it for IETF

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Harald Alvestrand
Paul Hoffman skrev: At 12:50 PM +1300 1/18/08, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Added sentences to section 8.1 explaining that BCPs and FYIs are sub- series of Informational RFCs. Namely: The sub-series of FYIs and BCPs are comprised of Informational documents in the sense of

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 12:50 PM +1300 1/18/08, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Added sentences to section 8.1 explaining that BCPs and FYIs are sub- series of Informational RFCs. Namely: The sub-series of FYIs and BCPs are comprised of Informational documents in the sense of the enumeration

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Frank Ellermann
Harald Alvestrand wrote: [BCP} I long ago proposed splitting the series into the two effective subseries it has - process documents and forcefully recommended advice to operators/implementors - but that obvious move is Just Too Much Of A Hassle ...it could be more straight forward than

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 3:52 AM +0100 1/18/08, Frank Ellermann wrote: Or maybe TAO is the IETF user manual and public FAQ, while IONs not limited to Procdoc are the reference manual for folks trying to figure out why user manual and implementation are different. Something along that line, yes. The Tao really

Re: I-D Action:draft-hoffman-tao4677bis-00.txt

2008-01-17 Thread Joe Abley
On 17-Jan-2008, at 18:50, Brian E Carpenter wrote: Added sentences to section 8.1 explaining that BCPs and FYIs are sub- series of Informational RFCs. Namely: The sub-series of FYIs and BCPs are comprised of Informational documents in the sense of the enumeration above, with

Weekly posting summary for ietf@ietf.org

2008-01-17 Thread Thomas Narten
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Document Action: 'IPFIX Implementation Guidelines' to Informational RFC

2008-01-17 Thread The IESG
The IESG has approved the following document: - 'IPFIX Implementation Guidelines ' draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-08.txt as an Informational RFC This document is the product of the IP Flow Information Export Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Dan Romascanu and Ron

Internet-Drafts Submission Cutoff Dates for the 71st IETF Meeting in Philadelphia, PA, USA

2008-01-17 Thread ietf-secretariat
There are two (2) Internet-Draft cutoff dates for the 71st IETF Meeting in Philadelphia, PA, USA: February 18th: Cutoff Date for Initial (i.e., version -00) Internet-Draft Submissions All initial Internet-Drafts (version -00) must be submitted by Monday, February 18th at 9:00 AM ET (14:00