On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Dean Willis wrote:
And no, I don't play golf, which appears to be the entire focus of
this sort of location.
This could be an opportunity to do something different. (Though I
agree that having the IETF on a location 15km from downtown could have
some challenges.)
Ok,
On 1 feb 2008, at 4:37, Dean Willis wrote:
Excuse me, but isn't this in the boonies way outside town? Are we
going to be stuck in a $200 a night hotel with no reasonable
alternative accommodations eating vastly overpriced hotel food and
facing a one-hour commute to anywhere else?
I agree
Ross Finlayson wrote:
Excuse me, but isn't this in the boonies way outside town? Are we
going to be stuck in a $200 a night hotel with no reasonable
alternative accommodations eating vastly overpriced hotel food and
facing a one-hour commute to anywhere else?
How easy will it be to commute
Excuse me, but isn't this in the boonies way outside town? Are we
going to be stuck in a $200 a night hotel with no reasonable
alternative accommodations eating vastly overpriced hotel food and
facing a one-hour commute to anywhere else?
How easy will it be to commute between the hotel and
On Feb 1, 2008 12:18 AM, Pekka Savola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2008, Dean Willis wrote:
And no, I don't play golf, which appears to be the entire focus of
this sort of location.
This could be an opportunity to do something different. (Though I
agree that having the IETF on
Excerpts from Dean Willis on Thu, Jan 31, 2008 09:37:53PM -0600:
Excuse me, but isn't this in the boonies way outside town? Are we
going to be stuck in a $200 a night hotel with no reasonable
alternative accommodations eating vastly overpriced hotel food and
facing a one-hour commute to
Stephen Farrell wrote:
Ross Finlayson wrote:
How easy will it be to commute between the hotel and central Dublin
(e.g., if we want to eat lunch or dinner somewhere other than the
hotel)?
You couldn't make lunch in the city centre from citywest. Dinner
should be ok, even if it
A quick google search finds multiple restaurants in the villages of
Saggart (adjacent to the golf course) and Rathcoole (2k away)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 02/01/2008 08:43:12 AM:
--On Friday, 01 February, 2008 11:57 +0100 Jeroen Massar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(e.g., if we want to
Jari,
Your an IESG great rep but your just another bozo on the bus on this list.
Your authoritarian tone is not pleasing at least how I take it. Let people
vent I just hit the 'd' key and so can you. But thanks for your thoughts as
all others.
The point is the facilities are forcing people
Jari Arkko wrote:
Dean,
We should know by now that isolated resorts ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE as
meeting locations.
Er... like Dallas or San Diego?
I've never been to Dublin and I don't know what exists on site. Maybe
some locals could tell us?
Actually, I think the hotel should be
Dean,
We should know by now that isolated resorts ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE as
meeting locations.
Er... like Dallas or San Diego?
I've never been to Dublin and I don't know what exists on site. Maybe
some locals could tell us? Also, as has happened in a number of IETFs so
far (like in Dallas),
At 10:28 AM 2/1/2008, Jari Arkko wrote:
Dean,
We should know by now that isolated resorts ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE as
meeting locations.
Er... like Dallas or San Diego?
Jari
Dallas was supposed to be New Orleans until a little catastrophe
called Katrina happened there and a secondary city
GOLDMAN, STUART O (STUART) wrote:
Folks,
I just went to the website to at least grab a room for the time being.
I was disappointed to learn that reservations are non cancellable and
non refundable!
Our contract provides that the reservations are cancellable, refundable
and
Bound, Jim wrote:
snip
NB; Ray this is not personal or against IAOC at all. We know you do the best
you can with the budget you have. But being in the city anytime gives us all
more options after IETF work. I for one do not come at all to the IETF for any
social things not even a
Janet P Gunn wrote:
A quick google search finds multiple restaurants in the villages
of Saggart (adjacent to the golf course) and Rathcoole (2k away)
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=lq=restaurantnear=53.282972,-6.442966ll=53.282972,-6.442966z=13
Better don't try that with Google maps... ;-)
On Feb 1, 2008, at 2:18 AM, Pekka Savola wrote:
Ok, hands up (off-list) everyone who's interested in an IETF golf
competition or just casual golf :-) ?
Ok, if IETFers are playing golf en-masse, I'm bringing a video camera
to the first hole to film tee-off bloopers.
I was traumatized for
Stuart and Ray,
I called the hotel directly to make my reservations. Just mentioned
the IETF and got the group rate. Note that $130 is for a single room -
I was quoted $160 for two people (Ray, is that correct?). Also, I was
told that cancellation is 48 hours with with no penalties.
Cheers,
Andrew G. Malis wrote:
Stuart and Ray,
I called the hotel directly to make my reservations. Just mentioned
the IETF and got the group rate. Note that $130 is for a single room -
I was quoted $160 for two people (Ray, is that correct?).
160 is correct for the Double Rate.
Also, I was
I propose that we eliminate global cutoff dates and let each WG
establish any cutoff dates it needs for its own purposes.
In general we strive to have the principal forum for discussion be WG
mailing lists as opposed to the physical meetings themselves. That
should be the default case. Most WGs
--On Friday, 01 February, 2008 15:31 -0500 Scott Brim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I propose that we eliminate global cutoff dates and let each WG
establish any cutoff dates it needs for its own purposes.
In general we strive to have the principal forum for
discussion be WG mailing lists as
At Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:51:10 -0500,
John C Klensin wrote:
(2) I think an early cutoff for individual documents that do not
directly relate to IETF WG or Standards-track work is useful
because it keeps the noise level down for all of us.So a
WG-based cutoff might need to be accompanied by a
Ray,
Thanks - and also thanks to everyone that pointed out that I used $
when I meant € ... just typing too fast for my own good.
Cheers,
Andy
On Feb 1, 2008 3:28 PM, Ray Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Andrew G. Malis wrote:
Stuart and Ray,
I called the hotel directly to make my
On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:51 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
(3) Cullen's note emphasized the reading problems faced by ADs
who are trying to stay on top of all of the documents in their
areas. I think we need to be very careful about that, balancing
permitting the ADs to function/manage effectively
On 1 feb 2008, at 22:14, Eric Rescorla wrote:
FWIW, I'm not an AD but I, like Cullen, try to read every draft for
every WG I attend, so workload is a definite issue.
Exactly.
It's good to have a few weeks between the point where you need to have
your own drafts done and the point where you
Hello,
I believe this is a well organized and complete document. On
numerous occasions while reviewing it I made a mental question
regarding something only to have the question answered in a
subsequent paragraph.
I do have several comments though:
1. this protocol can be used in the
Hello again,
Pardon my repetition but I have come up with a very valid
reason why naming keys using HMAC-SHA-256 is a bad idea.
If one wants to administratively remove all keys in a particular
key hierarchy (which seems like an entirely reasonable request)
one must do a linear search of
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